Discussion: PvP Deaths (Item/Coin/XP Loot/Gain)

[Harrison]

Originally Posted by Bardalicious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only thing I believe they had nerfed was your skills. They put in a hard cap to prevent a level 20 rogue, for example, having 250 points in backstab after deleveling.

As far as stats from items, they remained the same as long as they didnt have rec/req levels, though having capped skills reduced defense and attack and such.

That's what I meant. Stats from items remained the same until their rec/req system.

[Envious]

De-leveling was fun before they nerfed the skill levels being retained.

[Tajin]

KEEEEP ITEM LOOOOOOT!!!

[mimixownzall]

Coin Loot: Yes
Item Loot: No
Exp loss/gain: No. If you're not going to allow item loot, why allow exp loss? Both discourage PVP. With item loot, you have people running away bagging their items before they possibly turn around and fight; exp loss you have people running.... running.... running....

[Tajin]

Originally Posted by mimixownzall [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Coin Loot: Yes
Item Loot: No
Exp loss/gain: No. If you're not going to allow item loot, why allow exp loss? Both discourage PVP. With item loot, you have people running away bagging their items before they possibly turn around and fight; exp loss you have people running.... running.... running....

People turn around running regardless if its item loot or not. Exp loss on pvp death should be enabled imo, it would help against bind rushing imo.

KEEP ITEM LOOT

[pasi]

Exp loss on death (assuming its a sizable amount, even 40% of a real death) is going to be a bigger deterrent of PvP than item loot would from 1-49.

[vinx]

BUT.. it does have its upsides

* training will be down on those that do it consistantly (minus the level 1 DA clerics)
eg, you train, you die from train, you get corpse, you die (unless you wait till they leave = less training)
* forces you to group and/or xp every so often once your level cap (and max level will be an accomplishment)

2 things that griefers and PKs hate to do
Casuals will hate it but not as much (cuz they dont pk as much)
im guessin they will realize its a slow grind when they dont expect to win every battle
and will keep on casually grinding /shrug

but i agree, if its put in it will be brutal
xp group deaths + pvp death daily = some days you lose more then you gain
idc either way, Deterent? prolly
but i do have an evil grin just thinkin about it being in LOL

[pasi]

Dying while training is such a 2000s thing. Rez box training, DAing on top of people, using mobs natural back-pathing to train, etc.

But yeah, until you have anything valuable, I'm sure most would rather lose their lockjaw-hide vest or savant's cap rather than eat a sizable exp death. Not sure how many of you leveled on P99, but it's pretty slow.

[mimixownzall]

Originally Posted by Tajin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

KEEP ITEM LOOT

No.

There is a reason eqlive went away from this and made servers that didn't have item loot:

It was more popular.

If it were teams I would be more prone to allow item loot, but it's too easy to fuck people over who aren't in big guilds and join groups.

/gu Look! He's got a (insert cool item here)! I have been camping one of them forever and can't get one to drop, lets disband him and rip it from his still-warm corpse.

[raptorak]

If there is item loot do not allow looting of weapons - that is just cruel and unfair.