World of Warcraft really is an EverQuest copy/pasta.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Watch the video instead of arguing what clearly don't know: it was not "WC Alpha"!

It was "the original Warcraft dev fucking around with trying to make the second RTS ever", and using screenshots of the first to get started. Once he got the basic idea working, he replaced those graphics, so it's not like it was even a demo at the time he used them ... let alone a game (at any stage).

What's an alpha precious?

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

By your logic every RTS is a clone of Dune 2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Of course yes, Dune 2 is the father of every RTS.

And it rightly deserves that credit.

Why are you shitting on Dune 2’s legacy?

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What's an alpha precious?

Originally Posted by Google

In game development, an "alpha" is a very early, playable version of a game that is still under heavy development. It is the first major milestone where all the core mechanics and planned features are implemented, even if they are still unpolished, incomplete, or full of bugs.

Originally Posted by Wikipedia

A game demo is a trial version of a video game that is limited to a certain time period or a point in progress. A game demo comes in forms such as shareware, demo discs, downloadable software, and tech demos.

Again, watch the video: it was not even at the "demo" stage, let alone the "alpha" stage. It was at the "OMG I just saw this great new game, can I reproduce the core mechanics to make my own game like it someday?" stage.

[loramin]

First you were certain it met the legal criteria for infringement:

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I’m certain if you put images of Warcraft and images of Warhammer side-by-side in a courtroom, especially in the 1990s , a jury of people would say that’s IP infringement.

Then you downgraded to "it's a clone":

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But your video clearly supports the argument they were intending on cloning the Warhammer IP just like they were cloning Dune II's gameplay.

(Your own video calls it a dune II clone mind you, Im not making that up.)

Now you've come down to "it's the spiritual father" (in the same way that the first game of any genre is the spirtual father of every other game in that genre):

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Of course yes, Dune 2 is the father of every RTS.

And it rightly deserves that credit.

Why are you shitting on Dune 2’s legacy?

Want to move those goalposts any further?

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Again, watch the video: it was not even at the "demo" stage, let alone the "alpha" stage. It was at the "OMG I just saw this great new game, can I reproduce the core mechanics to make my own game like it someday?" stage.

The difference between an alpha, a demo, and nothing is well, nothing.

I hope this helps.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The difference between an alpha, a demo, and nothing is well, nothing.

I hope this helps.

Ok, words don't mean what they mean; I'm totally swayed by that argument [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[shovelquest]

The video corraborates every argument i have made.

"when people say the game is a knock off of warhammer they're half correct"
https://youtu.be/MxFBJKn0blQ?t=218

"the art style actually is"

"the gameplay itself and genesis of the project is all based on dune 2."

The video debunks that the genesis of the project was Games workshop coming to blizzard, and instead just says that blizzard was COPYING the theme of warhammer and COPYING the gameplay of dune, to make their own game.

There is nothing wrong with that either, the best sci fi movie ever made is a copy of another sci fi movie that i grew up loving.

Taking one game, or movie, and combining it with another game or movie is what made the creative industry work.

But now everyone is super lame and they side with DBG laying the full force of the American judicial system on THJ on behalf of some eastern European investment bank.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok, words don't mean what they mean; I'm totally swayed by that argument [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nonsense girl sass. Go to your room.

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Want to move those goalposts any further?

You are acting rudely and insensitively.

THIS is where my goalpost remaines:

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Warhammer, Warcraft 3, dota, league of legends.

All clones of each other: no lawsuits.

EverQuest: who do you think you are using our artwork and stuff? We are the most unique and best quality game how dare you try to clone us!

Your own video literally says the words CLONED dune 2 and Warhammers artwork.

[Knuckle]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your argument against ripping off Warhammer is that they actually ripped off the gameplay of Dune 2 while also ripping off the Warhammer art style?

Dune 2, licensed by a movie by a book. Lore based entirely on a author maybe a decade or so earlier? Yes all games take inspiration from eachother. Although the early RTS era was a bit more interesting in that regard.