Best solo melee class?

[sammoHung]

Originally Posted by Ephirith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

p.s. monk is the superior overall soloist whether you're twinked or not.

[Goregasmic]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Two HGL’s are ideal. I have an Earring of Essence only because I’ve been lazy about grabbing another. It’s a solid earring though. If coupled with an EoE, I’d rather use a Blue Diamond earring or Fingerbone Hoop over a pearly bauble. MR is the best for a class that does a lot of pulling.

Where do you pull that MR is that significant? Genuinely curious. Outside seb/chardok I don't really see it and groups rarely do chardok. I find getting slowed while soloing is a better reason to wear MR. Considering all the earring options a ranger has EoE is pretty weak when you don't need the MR.

HGL is 30hp over a bauble, the -15ac seems like a steep price to pay if you're not already oozing AC, which won't happen for a non raid geared ranger.

Am I missing something?

[Naethyn]

Lotta things cast on me with MR in KC.

[sammoHung]

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lotta things cast on me with MR in KC.

There's like 4 mobs total in KC that cast, the rest are melee

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah I'd definitely give the woven bark a spin over the earring of station. Statwise it's probably close to a wash depending on other gear, but the clicky is convenient. Living thunder certainly looks nice, but the see invis part is kinda a waste until you outgrow helm of the tracker. Speaking of which, if you don't have one and want one I can hook you up with a MQ for that.

This whole discussion actually has me considering whether I've outgrown my earring of woven bark. It was a hand-me-down from my druid, where I got it while leveling in chardok as a tip from befriending and buffing a necro farmer with regrowth over a couple weeks. It's been great to have, but the mana savings aren't significant and the clicky cast time is annoying. I'm curious what you or any of the other rangers in this thread would suggest for a replacement. I'll trade you the woven bark for that bauble straight up [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The thing about earrings is they are generally low stat anyway, until you get raid items. They are also often swapped for a resist piece. Earring of Essence and Blue Diamond Earrings will have your MR covered.

Hammered Golden Loop would give you like 74 more max HP over Woven Bark if you aren't STA capped, but the mana savings from the clickie are going to help you more than 74 max HP.

If you are in the position where 74 HP was the difference between life and death, you messed up somehow. Most of the time you will be using the mana savings over the max HP, unless you are raiding. Hammered Golden Loops would be good for raiding to help you stay alive from AoEs.

[Naethyn]

Originally Posted by sammoHung [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's like 4 mobs total in KC that cast, the rest are melee

I camp entrance with my paladin solo who I went max MR on and I see casts on myself all the time that are resisted. All the spirits and some of the skeletons. I have an undead weapon so I go for them over dogs.

[Goregasmic]

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lotta things cast on me with MR in KC.

Ghosts and scryer IIRC. Figured with sow, snare and how twisty KC is you can LOS all the way back to camp most of the time, if we're talking pulling. IIRC some of the ghosts are clerics so you get more mileage out of MR by resisting nukes too. Blind and slow also sucks on shamans.

Plenty of good reasons for MR but nothing make or break in an exp group I feel, especially if not tanking. Solo is different since you have the mob's attention for the entire fight.

[Ephirith]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not going to tell them to reroll their characters if they ask for advice.

But you will tell a newb iksar SK, with a statistically infinitesimal chance of making it to raid gear, to put their starting stats into INT instead of STR, STA, or even DEX which is horrendous advice. We know from past data that most people drop their hybrids around 45-52, at a greater rate than other classes. You proceeded to spend 60 pages consistently minimizing the contribution of increased output, with is directly proportional to sustain, in favor of a tiny amount of max mana that might some day be useful when fully raid geared and raid buffed.

There, in page after page, you weighted max mana comparatively highly against various other considerations, and here, page after page, you consistently minimized max mana against various other considerations, because it suited your rhetoric and whatever point you were making. To the extent that you're now both noting that a hybrid should almost never run out of mana, and yet recommending it as a priority stat for iksars in the same post.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you are in the position where 74 HP was the difference between life and death

Glad to know +HP is optional because if we all play perfectly we'll never die. Bonehead logic, this could be said about any non-output stat. Don't forget rangers are usually DPS and there is a massive opportunity cost to stand there for 4 seconds hard-casting a snare to save 15 mana. Yes you can cast it on pull, but you can also get in a med tick in on pull and generate a lot more than 15 mana.

[kjs86z2]

Originally Posted by Ephirith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But you will tell a newb, with a statistically infinitesimal chance of making it to raid gear, to put their starting stats into INT instead of STR, STA, or even DEX which is horrendous advice. We know from past data that most people drop their hybrids around 45-52, at a greater rate than other classes. You proceeded to spend 60 pages consistently minimizing the contribution of increased output, with is directly proportional to sustain, in favor of a tiny amount of max mana that might some day be useful when fully raid geared and raid buffed.

There, in page after page, you weighted max mana comparatively highly against various other considerations, and here, page after page, you consistently minimized max mana against various other considerations, because it suited your rhetoric and whatever point you were making. To the extent that you're now both noting that a hybrid should almost never run out of mana, and yet recommending it as a priority stat for iksars in the same post.



Glad to know +HP is optional because if we all play perfectly we'll never die. Bonehead logic, this could be said about any non-output stat. Don't forget rangers are usually DPS and there is a massive opportunity cost to stand there for 4 seconds hard-casting a snare to save 15 mana. Yes you can cast it on pull, but you can also get in a med tick in on pull and generate a lot more than 15 mana.

at least someone else out there is seeing what im seeing when it comes to DSM lol

[Goregasmic]

Originally Posted by Ephirith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But you will tell a newb iksar SK, with a statistically infinitesimal chance of making it to raid gear, to put their starting stats into INT instead of STR, STA, or even DEX which is horrendous advice. We know from past data that most people drop their hybrids around 45-52, at a greater rate than other classes. You proceeded to spend 60 pages consistently minimizing the contribution of increased output, with is directly proportional to sustain, in favor of a tiny amount of max mana that might some day be useful when fully raid geared and raid buffed.

Sir, this is the p99 forums where the answer to all problems is "get more BiS".