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[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by sammoHung [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

honestly its because daybreaks bloodhound gang of laywers sniffed the grift, and they stepped in to be the heroes of the EQEmu community by shutting down a project that was collecting massive donation money based on stolen IP using a pre-existing codebase that developers on EQEmu have spent years building before it was appropriated into a for-profit money making scheme.

Yeah, I've viewed eqemu as a community hobby project. Admitedly I've mainly contributed to the p99 fork, my contributions have been from the perspective of the love of it, and I'm sure others feel the same.

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm talking 2k+ average online. THJ's average online was ~1.7k with a max around 4k at the highest measurement.

Thats not true at all, the number comes straight from the lawsuit.

The judge’s preliminary injunction order (Sept 19, 2025) summarizes Daybreak’s evidence and explicitly notes: “In December 2024… THJ already had 2,000 users… today, THJ has more than 30,000 users,” citing Daybreak’s supplemental motion.

[shovelquest]

In comparison, Project1999 on EQEmulator’s own server pages showed the all-time peaks were 2667 on Green, 2162 on Blue, and 663 on Red.

With “3100+ players” being the all time high online across Green+Blue during Green’s launch week in Oct 2019.

https://www.eqemulator.org/forums/sh...672&utm_source

[Ephirith]

Originally Posted by sammoHung [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

honestly its because daybreaks bloodhound gang of laywers sniffed the grift, and they stepped in to be the heroes of the EQEmu community by shutting down a project that was collecting massive donation money based on stolen IP using a pre-existing codebase that developers on EQEmu have spent years building before it was appropriated into a for-profit money making scheme.

If this joke was intended, fucking bravo, especially because The Bad Touch was released in 1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] shit's classic

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[cd288]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thats not true at all, the number comes straight from the lawsuit.

The judge’s preliminary injunction order (Sept 19, 2025) summarizes Daybreak’s evidence and explicitly notes: “In December 2024… THJ already had 2,000 users… today, THJ has more than 30,000 users,” citing Daybreak’s supplemental motion.

Yet again, you show poor reading comprehension.

Reread what I wrote in my last comment. 30,000 users is the total number of users, and is different from online numbers. And when looking at total users for emu servers, it's hard to understand how many unique users there truly are.

For instance, let's hypothetically say P99 had 20,000 "users". We'd all know that number isn't truly reflective of the total number of P99 players, because tons of players have multiple accounts. But at the same time it might be hard to narrow down to the true number because, while players have multiple accounts, it's not always clear how many accounts tie to one player (different emails, usernames, P99/eq emu logins, etc.).

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Sadre Spinegnawer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If they could come for p99 they would.

They could have if they wanted to. It's their IP, they could've shut down P99 when it started. Instead they told P99 it could keep operating subject to certain conditions.

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yet again, you show poor reading comprehension.

Reread what I wrote in my last comment. 30,000 users is the total number of users, and is different from online numbers. And when looking at total users for emu servers, it's hard to understand how many unique users there truly are.

For instance, let's hypothetically say P99 had 20,000 "users". We'd all know that number isn't truly reflective of the total number of P99 players, because tons of players have multiple accounts. But at the same time it might be hard to narrow down to the true number because, while players have multiple accounts, it's not always clear how many accounts tie to one player (different emails, usernames, P99/eq emu logins, etc.).

No 30k was CONCURRENT that means at any given time there were 3k players. 24 hrs a day, 7 days a week.

What you're looking at with p99 was once, it hit 3k players during the launch week of green.

P99 had an all time high of 4k concurrent players that info is on the EMU site.

[sammoHung]

Originally Posted by Ephirith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If this joke was intended, fucking bravo, especially because The Bad Touch was released in 1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] shit's classic

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1999 Had Bloodhound Gang, American Pie, the Matrix, Stone Cold Steve Austin and EverQuest. Truly peak humanity.

[sammoHung]

Oh yeah and Office Space

[cd288]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No 30k was CONCURRENT that means at any given time there were 3k players. 24 hrs a day, 7 days a week.

What you're looking at with p99 was once, it hit 3k players during the launch week of green.

P99 had an all time high of 4k concurrent players that info is on the EMU site.

Jeez dude you really are dense.

I literally said that. 30k is the total number of users/playerbase that THJ peaked at, with an average of around ~1,700 players online, but peaks up to 3-4k occasionally. 30k is the total number of accounts.

The point I was making is that when we talk about total number of accounts on a server it's not really a useful number because we have no idea how many of those accounts are tied to a single player and it's really difficult to figure that out unless everyone ties all their accounts to the same login/email, which most people don't for various reasons.

To reiterate the P99 hypothetical example, if you told me it had 20,000 users I would bet that it shakes out to around 6,500 - 7,000 actual players since a ton of people have 3 accounts (or sometimes more).