Current Raid Meta: Good or Bad?

[Ennewi]

Originally Posted by JayDee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Need the warders back. Everyone is BiS and bored with current raid meta

Would be a start. Ideally, another hate and fear revamp. Earth staff on inny loot table, along with 2 chest pieces, like how it is with tuna. Shit like that. Pipe dream.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Ennewi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Earth staff on inny loot table, along with 2 chest pieces, like how it is with tuna.

The fact that Verant chose (very deliberately) not to do this has always boggled my mind. I can only conclude that Mages were so hated by the general population (after kicking ass in classic) that they purposely "punished them" with a nearly impossible epic in the next expansion.

I just don't understand why else they would have done it, as it defies all game design logic. But whatever the reason, it seems even more pointless here on P99 than it did in classic.

[WarpathEQ]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The fact that Verant chose (very deliberately) not to do this has always boggled my mind. I can only conclude that Mages were so hated by the general population (after kicking ass in classic) that they purposely "punished them" with a nearly impossible epic in the next expansion.

I just don't understand why else they would have done it, as it defies all game design logic. But whatever the reason, it seems even more pointless here on P99 than it did in classic.

They were epic items, meant to be the hardest thing in game to obtain (in era) requiring that you kill the hardest mobs.

[Ennewi]

Yep. Mage isn't even a class I play but like, SKs got fear sword moved from CT to 3 golems; bards got a spawnable version of trak with it always having the guts. More epics for more players, except mages...

With one change inny becomes a valuable raid target which would spread competing guilds out. And another revamp would/could put minis out of reach of farmers, or at least delay their efforts, allowing guilds to get in on the action.

[Foxplay]

Originally Posted by JayDee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Need the warders back. Everyone is BiS and bored with current raid meta

Nah keep them historical. Give us the Ancients but they just drop primals (at a rate similar to the old warders) and prismatic scales, 4 more targets for guilds to go after

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The fact that Verant chose (very deliberately) not to do this has always boggled my mind. I can only conclude that Mages were so hated by the general population (after kicking ass in classic) that they purposely "punished them" with a nearly impossible epic in the next expansion.

I just don't understand why else they would have done it, as it defies all game design logic. But whatever the reason, it seems even more pointless here on P99 than it did in classic.

The change was meant to make earth staff, earth caller, etc more attainable (from what I understand). IDK whether the p99 minis implementation is off, or whether the inny drop on p99 was far too common, VI just messed up these epic pieces or VI simply lied about their intentions.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The change was meant to make earth staff, earth caller, etc more attainable (from what I understand). IDK whether the p99 minis implementation is off, or whether the inny drop on p99 was far too common, VI just messed up these epic pieces or VI simply lied about their intentions.

That change did make them slightly more attainable, so they didn't lie ... but it still kept mage epics far rarer than any other. Maybe on live the change helped slightly more (as more guilds were clearing Hate, and thus clearing the PHs for Magi), but it was still incredibly rare.

Originally Posted by WarpathEQ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They were epic items, meant to be the hardest thing in game to obtain (in era) requiring that you kill the hardest mobs.

That's kind of like saying $1000 is a lot of money.

It is a lot of money (and epics like Monk, Rogue, and Shaman do involve killing some hard/rare mobs). But $1,000,000 is also a lot of money ... and you wouldn't say $1,000 = $1,000,000, right? Same deal with the Mage epic.

[kjs86z2]

id rather just not worry about mage epic for a glorified coth bot

[loramin]

Originally Posted by kjs86z2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

id rather just not worry about mage epic for a glorified coth bot

Have you not heard of quad DA's? Do you even raid bro? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[kjs86z2]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Have you not heard of quad DA's? Do you even raid bro? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

reeeeeeeeeeee