I don't believe in space time.

[Defo]

Originally Posted by BradZax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Glad it amuses you, that's the point. These fearful pro-clergy only answers is concerning to me too.

Can you explain why exactly time "dilates" without saying "the observer" (the player)? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, it's impossible to not refer to the observer, because the only way we can estimate how the universe acts is through observation. That is an important clause, because the act of observing something affects the outcome. See: Schrodinger's Cat thought experiment.

EDIT: To add a similarity that is seen in every day life while driving:

If you are driving at 20 MPH in one direction on a street, and the car approaching you in the opposite direction is travelling 20 MPH: the moment you pass each other, the car passing you, and you passing the car, will be travelling at 40 MPH relative to each other. If, however, you were in a car stopped completely: the moment the car passed you, it would be travelling at 20 MPH relative to you. That is a loosely similar example, but it's something many people can understand.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Defo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, it's impossible to not refer to the observer, because the only way we can estimate how the universe acts is through observation. That is an important clause, because the act of observing something affects the outcome. See: Schrodinger's Cat thought experiment.

EDIT: To add a similarity that is seen in every day life while driving:

If you are driving at 20 MPH in one direction on a street, and the car approaching you in the opposite direction is travelling 20 MPH: the moment you pass each other, the car passing you, and you passing the car, will be travelling at 40 MPH relative to each other. If, however, you were in a car stopped completely: the moment the car passed you, it would be travelling at 20 MPH relative to you. That is a loosely similar example, but it's something many people can understand.

Would the light from the headlights of a car travelling at 20 mph reach your eye faster than the light from the headlights of a car at rest?

How much faster?

[Frieza_Prexus]

Originally Posted by BradZax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Glad it amuses you, that's the point. These fearful pro-clergy only answers is concerning to me too.

Can you explain why exactly time "dilates" without saying "the observer" (the player)? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To add to Defo's comment, light always moves at the same speed no matter how fast or slow you are going. There has never been an experiment that demonstrates that this is not true.

If a light is shone in one direction, it will appear the be moving to all observers at exactly the same speed. If you try to chase the light by moving behind it at 50% light speed, the light will still be moving away from you at the same speed that a person standing still would measure.

From there, it is simple math and extrapolation to understand that if the speed of light is fixed then the passage of time is the only variable left to conform, which it does.

[Defo]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Would the light from the headlights of a car travelling at 20 mph reach your eye faster than the light from the headlights of a car at rest?

How much faster?

Well, light has a "special" relativity, so no it wouldn't be any faster. You'd have to be an incredible distance away because light travels at 300 million meters per second.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Frieza_Prexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To add to Defo's comment, light always moves at the same speed no matter how fast or slow you are going. There has never been an experiment that demonstrates that this is not true.

If a light is shone in one direction, it will appear the be moving to all observers at exactly the same speed. If you try to chase the light by moving behind it at 50% light speed, the light will still be moving away from you at the same speed that a person standing still would measure.

From there, it is simple math and extrapolation to understand that if the speed of light is fixed then the passage of time is the only variable left to conform, which it does.

Light is instantaneous in one direction and a bit slower in the other.

[BradZax]

Originally Posted by Defo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you are driving at 20 MPH in one direction on a street, and the car approaching you in the opposite direction is travelling 20 MPH: the moment you pass each other, the car passing you, and you passing the car, will be travelling at 40 MPH relative to each other. If, however, you were in a car stopped completely: the moment the car passed you, it would be travelling at 20 MPH relative to you. That is a loosely similar example, but it's something many people can understand.

At no point did time change.

What about those two drivers passing each other makes time go slower for them, than me, sitting at the bus stop.

[BradZax]

Originally Posted by Frieza_Prexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To add to Defo's comment, light always moves at the same speed no matter how fast or slow you are going. There has never been an experiment that demonstrates that this is not true.

If a light is shone in one direction, it will appear the be moving to all observers at exactly the same speed. If you try to chase the light by moving behind it at 50% light speed, the light will still be moving away from you at the same speed that a person standing still would measure.

From there, it is simple math and extrapolation to understand that if the speed of light is fixed then the passage of time is the only variable left to conform, which it does.

Yes.

If the speed of light is fixed, then the passage of time is the only variable left to conform.

By the server breaking.

This is the issue that I have, is that there is no scientific reason for "time dilation" to happen. Time "changing" is the observed effect.

This is then thought to be a "real physical behavior of our universe"

There is no evidence whatsoever that is true, anywhere else.

Except if you start scaling things down beyond a size smaller than a PIXEL.

Then the server starts breaking again.

Im simply trying to explain, that "space time" is a construct.

And that what we think is space time: is just a simple, playstation 1 quality: Physics bug.

Fact:

Nobody can explain the material reason why time slows, other than making up a metaphor like, "the fabric of time" or "space time"

[Defo]

Originally Posted by BradZax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

At no point did time change.

What about those two drivers passing each other makes time go slower for them, than me, sitting at the bus stop.

Well, in a very very simplified explanation: if you are sitting at the speed of light, (constant rate) and the drivers are accelerating faster than that rate, they are travelling faster through space, and therefore slower through time. Think of Quicksilver scene in XMen Days of Future Past (great Time Dilation scene IMO)... He is literally experiencing more time than the people moving slower through space.

Einstein's theory has been long confirmed to be accurate - The Hafele-Keating experiment (1971) showed that an atomic clock placed on an airplane travelling the same direction as the Earth's rotation ticks slower than a clock travelling the opposite direction.

EDIT: I just read your last line, and I'm not sure if you've read much on this, or have just casually browsed a few things and formed a concrete opinion on it. That's the part I alluded to earlier that concerns me. Either way, I'm going to bow out of this convo - but I wish you luck in your learning endeavors! In the words of Bill Nye: Science rules!

[Reiwa]

Total Jiblet victory

[Reiwa]

Imagine having an advanced degree and citing the Uncanny X-men as a proof of theory