New Server Rule Proposal for Scout Roll

[sammoHung]

As someone who has both lost close to 100 rolls and helped on each one

And also won a handful of rolls and relied on the people staying to help kill:

Isn't that the whole point of the player agreement? That sometimes the roll happens at 4am and instead of trying to rally an outside raid force to take 10 minutes to travel to scout roll - it's much easier, simpler, more efficient and overall just makes more sense to have the people who lost stick around to help?

Or are we that fuckin selfish that we can't spend an additional 5 minutes killing an easy target twice a day? Or just sore losers?

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by sammoHung [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As someone who has both lost close to 100 rolls and helped on each one

And also won a handful of rolls and relied on the people staying to help kill:

Isn't that the whole point of the player agreement? That sometimes the roll happens at 4am and instead of trying to rally an outside raid force to take 10 minutes to travel to scout roll - it's much easier, simpler, more efficient and overall just makes more sense to have the people who lost stick around to help?

Or are we that fuckin selfish that we can't spend an additional 5 minutes killing an easy target twice a day? Or just sore losers?

It's amazing the number of players that apparently detest the core of the game, yet continue to subject themselves to the misery of playing it anyway.

[sammoHung]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's amazing the number of players that apparently detest the core of the game, yet continue to subject themselves to the misery of playing it anyway.

I know a few of these. They only SOLO this MULTIPLAYER game.

And yet rely on raids to get gear / plat to continue gearing their alts to solo.

You know the ones, the ones who are constantly bitching about what is owed to them in your guild's chat, but you can never rely on them to help with a quest or dungeon crawl. you only ever see them soloing (or boxing) or bidding on drops at raids.

the same fuckers who think buy low sell high is a viable strategy in EC tunnel in 2026, 5+ years after the last content dropped. you know the ones.

the same ones who WTB cowl of mortality for 150k (but not in a rush) but would sell it for 200k, current posting on tunnelquest discord. you know the ones

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Ignight [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So even after players roll and lose, the ask is they stay and kill said NPC? Shouldn't it fall on the winner to form a team to do it?

That's how Ring 8 rolls work. Roll happens like 30 minutes before pop, so players have a bit of time to form a team after they win.

I wouldn't mind if scout followed the same rules.

Honestly though, I don't understand the obsession with the scout roll items. They all get replaced by raid items eventually, and each item has a close enough item.

Othmir Prexus Totem is a close enough to Talisman, Ice Silk Robe is close enough to Robe, and Silver Chitin Wristbands + Blue Diamond Bracelets on Sawp are close enough to BoBs. Unless you get really lucky on rolls, it's probably faster just to farm the plat for one of these items, or farm the item itself if you have characters to do it.

I never bother with scout roll personally. I hate having to leave a character I want to play at scout for a month or more, or constantly go back and forth.

[sammoHung]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I wouldn't mind if scout followed the same rules.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I never bother with scout roll personally.

Of course you don't mind if you don't partake, so since you don't partake who cares how you think it should work?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by sammoHung [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Of course you don't mind if you don't partake, so since you don't partake who cares how you think it should work?

If you are attempting an argument from authority fallacy, that doesn't work because I have done scout roll numerous times in the past. I understand the system perfectly well. If you think there is a fundamental difference between Scout and Ring 8, please explain it. Ring 8's bring your own group system has worked for years. It would work for Scout, and it would probably be better. I'd imagine less people would show up if you needed your own group.

If you are asking a more general question about why we should care about another poster's opinion, then the answer is this is a forum. People read forums to understand other people's opinions. I hope you arent suggesting all posts from people who no longer play are now 100% irrelevant, simply because they don't play (and thus don't actively partake)?

[Duik]

There are lots of actual babies here.
Lots of people like their baby, not everyone likes other peoples babies, some naturally nurturing people do. These people do well at this kind of thing.

It really is this simple people.
Further, I hate both yours and my baby. I dont have scout or ring 8.

Many people are shocked when they find out im not an elecrtician!