Game Mechanics: Staff of Temperate Flux and Rod of Insidious Glamour Should not be useable on move

[baakss]

Originally Posted by Awsten_Tx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

but 10 clicks of your staff will pull any mob on you in a few seconds...

Sometimes, the plots write themselves

On Quarm and TAKP it generates basically no aggro, so this isn't a problem. Have you considered looking into that if this bothers you?

The instant cast thing actually has been hashed out here before. Have you read through all these?

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...highlight=flux

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...highlight=flux

One of these posts included logs showing you could spam the hell out of it:

[Wed Nov 14 02:01:45 2001] a skeleton scowls at you, ready to attack -- You could probably win this fight.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:46 2001] A skeleton tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:46 2001] A skeleton tries to bash YOU, but misses!
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:47 2001] A skeleton tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:47 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:49 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:49 2001] A skeleton tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:49 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:49 2001] You can't use that command right now...
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:49 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:50 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:50 2001] A skeleton tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:50 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:50 2001] Your target resisted the LowerElement spell.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:50 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:51 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:51 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:51 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:51 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:51 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:52 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:52 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:52 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:52 2001] A skeleton tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:52 2001] Your target resisted the LowerElement spell.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:52 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:53 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:53 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:53 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:53 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:53 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:54 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:54 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:55 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:55 2001] You were hit by non-melee for 6 dmg.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:55 2001] YOU were injured by falling.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:55 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:55 2001] You can't use that command right now...
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:55 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:55 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:55 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:56 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:56 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:56 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.

[baakss]

Originally Posted by Awsten_Tx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was always so concerned with the archery nerf i didnt bother to go snooping about this "kite meta" we have in p99. People didnt kite like that back in the day, and I wasnt sure why it was a thing here... turns out this is why.

Huh? For kiting a mob any high aggro spell would've worked in era. P99 has some P99-specific mechanics that necessitate flux staff, such as Vulak - Guard aggro share. There would have been no reason to need to do this on live because that mechanic didn't even exist.

On live and in era, the reasons we didn't do these massive kites is:

1. We had no voice comms.
   
2. We played on potatoes and had to stare at the wall or else we went LD.
   
3. We had no competition for these mobs.

When you consider the above it's simply better to be as safe as possible. It had nothing to do with flux staff being instant or not.

[Rygar]

Originally Posted by baakss [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Wed Nov 14 02:01:45 2001] a skeleton scowls at you, ready to attack -- You could probably win this fight.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:46 2001] A skeleton tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:46 2001] A skeleton tries to bash YOU, but misses!
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:47 2001] A skeleton tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:47 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:49 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:49 2001] A skeleton tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:49 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:49 2001] You can't use that command right now...
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:49 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:50 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:50 2001] A skeleton tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:50 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:50 2001] Your target resisted the LowerElement spell.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:50 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:51 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:51 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:51 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:51 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:51 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:52 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:52 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:52 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:52 2001] A skeleton tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:52 2001] Your target resisted the LowerElement spell.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:52 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:53 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:53 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:53 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:53 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:53 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:54 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:54 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:55 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:55 2001] You were hit by non-melee for 6 dmg.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:55 2001] YOU were injured by falling.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:55 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:55 2001] You can't use that command right now...
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:55 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:55 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:55 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:56 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:56 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.
[Wed Nov 14 02:01:56 2001] A skeleton looks uncomfortable.

This is the only compelling evidence there was a slight cast time, but I am not convinced it was enough to stop from running while casting in era. As folks have stated, slight movement would not always completely interrupt a spell. Maybe the cast time helped the client/server limit the input received or something (I'm no expert in that realm, just spit-balling)

[Hideousclaw]

Originally Posted by Rygar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is the only compelling evidence there was a slight cast time, but I am not convinced it was enough to stop from running while casting in era. As folks have stated, slight movement would not always completely interrupt a spell. Maybe the cast time helped the client/server limit the input received or something (I'm no expert in that realm, just spit-balling)

For what its worth this is 3 days ago on P99. Even here there is interrupts from rapid clicking. So that could just be a symptom of the same condition, just rapidly pressing and syncing between server client or whatever. I don't really buy the evidence implying it has a small cast time more than just this being the result of rapidly pressing it

[Fri May 01 10:10:19 2026] Velcra`Dron looks uncomfortable.
[Fri May 01 10:10:19 2026] Your target resisted the LowerElement spell.
[Fri May 01 10:10:19 2026] You can't use that command right now...
[Fri May 01 10:10:19 2026] You can't use that command right now...
[Fri May 01 10:10:19 2026] Your target resisted the LowerElement spell.
[Fri May 01 10:10:20 2026] Your target resisted the LowerElement spell.
[Fri May 01 10:10:20 2026] You can't use that command right now...
[Fri May 01 10:10:20 2026] You can't use that command right now...
[Fri May 01 10:10:20 2026] Velcra`Dron looks uncomfortable.
[Fri May 01 10:10:20 2026] You can't use that command right now...
[Fri May 01 10:10:20 2026] Velcra`Dron looks uncomfortable.

[Duik]

3 resists 3 success.
For that small sample

[Awsten_Tx]

I have read through everything and posted a week ago that it likely has a cast time similar to dainnhammer. Can still use on the move but limits it to between 2 and 3 cast per second.

[Awsten_Tx]

Originally Posted by Hideousclaw [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For what its worth this is 3 days ago on P99. Even here there is interrupts from rapid clicking. So that could just be a symptom of the same condition, just rapidly pressing and syncing between server client or whatever. I don't really buy the evidence implying it has a small cast time more than just this being the result of rapidly pressing it

[Fri May 01 10:10:19 2026] Velcra`Dron looks uncomfortable.
[Fri May 01 10:10:19 2026] Your target resisted the LowerElement spell.
[Fri May 01 10:10:19 2026] You can't use that command right now...
[Fri May 01 10:10:19 2026] You can't use that command right now...
[Fri May 01 10:10:19 2026] Your target resisted the LowerElement spell.
[Fri May 01 10:10:20 2026] Your target resisted the LowerElement spell.
[Fri May 01 10:10:20 2026] You can't use that command right now...
[Fri May 01 10:10:20 2026] You can't use that command right now...
[Fri May 01 10:10:20 2026] Velcra`Dron looks uncomfortable.
[Fri May 01 10:10:20 2026] You can't use that command right now...
[Fri May 01 10:10:20 2026] Velcra`Dron looks uncomfortable.

Fyi those aren't spell interrupts.

[Kinien]

Originally Posted by Hideousclaw [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For what its worth this is 3 days ago on P99. Even here there is interrupts from rapid clicking. So that could just be a symptom of the same condition, just rapidly pressing and syncing between server client or whatever. I don't really buy the evidence implying it has a small cast time more than just this being the result of rapidly pressing it

[Fri May 01 10:10:19 2026] Velcra`Dron looks uncomfortable.
[Fri May 01 10:10:19 2026] Your target resisted the LowerElement spell.
[Fri May 01 10:10:19 2026] You can't use that command right now...
[Fri May 01 10:10:19 2026] You can't use that command right now...
[Fri May 01 10:10:19 2026] Your target resisted the LowerElement spell.
[Fri May 01 10:10:20 2026] Your target resisted the LowerElement spell.
[Fri May 01 10:10:20 2026] You can't use that command right now...
[Fri May 01 10:10:20 2026] You can't use that command right now...
[Fri May 01 10:10:20 2026] Velcra`Dron looks uncomfortable.
[Fri May 01 10:10:20 2026] You can't use that command right now...
[Fri May 01 10:10:20 2026] Velcra`Dron looks uncomfortable.

I get this all the time on my manastone, if i spam it too quickly I get "You can't use that command right now..."

[feniin]

Originally Posted by Awsten_Tx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have read through everything and posted a week ago that it likely has a cast time similar to dainnhammer. Can still use on the move but limits it to between 2 and 3 cast per second.

I feel like you're just deliberately ignoring the logs and in-era evidence because you can't accept being wrong about this. Good thing nilbog can read and doesn't need your grandstanding.

[Wayward]

Originally Posted by feniin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I feel like you're just deliberately ignoring the logs and in-era evidence because you can't accept being wrong about this. Good thing nilbog can read and doesn't need your grandstanding.

For real... Literally everyone in this post is telling him he's wrong and providing evidence of the fact, but he keeps saying "Yep that proves it's got a 0.1 cast time."

I wish I had the same type of brain as Gluwen, I bet his detachment from objective truth helps him to stay happy regardless of circumstance. He can probably just reason anything away and imagine a reality where he is infallible.