Game Mechanics: Archery bonus Incorrectly Using Mainhand Primary

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Awsten_Tx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Worn Items
Silver Mask of Slayer (+10)
Belt of Dwarf Slaying (+10)
Spirit Wracked Cords (+10)
Swift Spirit (+30)

Spell buffs
Frostreaver's Blessing (+10)
Strength of Nature (+25)
Call of the Predator (+40)
Avatar (+100)
Visions of Grandeur (+20)
Dance of the Blade (+30)
McVaxius' Rousing Rondo (+39)

That looks perfect, per:
https://wiki.project1999.com/Buff%20...tack_.28ATK.29

[Awsten_Tx]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That looks almost perfect, but the wiki page thinks there's a little more worn options:
https://wiki.project1999.com/Buff%20...tack_.28ATK.29

Not for rangers.

[baakss]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm feeling pretty good with the local code now. Still needs more testing, but here is a summary of changes being tested so far.

-Archery damage no longer receives a damage bonus from mainhand weapon delay
-Archery damage scales with Dexterity instead of Strength
-Rangers can critically hit with archery at level 12 [Aug1999]
-Rogues can critically hit with throwing weapons at level 12 [Aug1999]
-Archery and throwing weapon hits display "X was hit by non-melee for Y points of damage" followed by "You hit X for Y points of damage"

Trueshot
[!Jan2001]
-All bows act as 45 damage bows while Trueshot is active
[Jan2001]
-Uses actual bow damage
-Added delay-based damage bonus (slower bows receive larger damage bonuses)

Expected Impact
-Rangers with high Dexterity will deal more damage with bows
-[Jan2001] Trueshot Discipline used with slow, high-delay bows will be more powerful


From the posted logs, damage seems close. With a fully raid buffed BIS ranger, it is possible (not likely) to achieve ~1000-1200 damage crits with Trueshot. Any additional logs would still be helpful.

And I just noticed when Trueshot fades, it says 'The natural energy fades from your bow.', but according to the logs it should say 'You lose the concentration to remain in your fighting discipline.' I'll see about changing that.

Did you also change it so that archery weapons do not get their procrate from main hand weapon speed?

Common P99 trick is to use a strong proc bow, such as windstriker, with a slow mainhand, such as earthshaker to force a proc on every or nearly every hit (with slow, dex, removing haste items, etc..). This trick/exploit/whatever is most commonly used in Mario Kart FTE races.



Also this is evidence of a 1000+ crit on a rooted raid mob in Velious. This is important because Yelinak is a "rooted" mob. You should be able to infer from this that mobs with no movespeed that were not affected by a root spell got double damage hits by ranger bows. This should apply to Yelinak, and presumably to custom-rooted ToV dragons.

https://groups.google.com/g/alt.game...m/1lOJ_UmONRAJ

Dennis Francis Heffernan
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Aug 10, 2001, 6:13:28 PM
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On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 14:55:13 -0700, "Sean Kennedy" <kse...@qwest.net> wrote:
|Now I'm really curious, just how much damage are we talking
|about?

Celt just set a new record -- a single hit of 1025, against Yelinak.

[Baugi]

Originally Posted by baakss [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did you also change it so that archery weapons do not get their procrate from main hand weapon speed?

Common P99 trick is to use a strong proc bow, such as windstriker, with a slow mainhand, such as earthshaker to force a proc on every or nearly every hit (with slow, dex, removing haste items, etc..). This trick/exploit/whatever is most commonly used in Mario Kart FTE races.

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This [proc rate] is a different system, and would be better as a new bug report. I can look at it since it's archery related while all this is familiar to me.

No one actually made a separate thread for it if you wanna be the guy.

[CrazyPro]

Originally Posted by baakss [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did you also change it so that archery weapons do not get their procrate from main hand weapon speed?

Common P99 trick is to use a strong proc bow, such as windstriker, with a slow mainhand, such as earthshaker to force a proc on every or nearly every hit (with slow, dex, removing haste items, etc..). This trick/exploit/whatever is most commonly used in Mario Kart FTE races.

Pretty sure he did say he fixed that