Pet weapon questions

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Attached is a chart of the last 1000 gator v gator hits I logged while leveling in gator alley. I think there's variation of three or four levels, so it's not a clean 20 damage intervals, but the pattern is clear. There's a spike at max or near-max hits but still plenty of small hits. There's a 33% cumulative chance of a hit of less than 30, a 50% cumulative chance of a hit of less than 44, and a max hit of 62.

This is why prediction in P99 is generally pretty easy. It isn't difficult to figure out the avarage damage and max damage per hit. You typically know them on a subconcious level when you get familiar with an area.

If you know that 6% HP is the maxium damage the mob will take in a normal round, for example, it isn't difficult to know when to start casting RoST. The worst cast scenario is a 12% HP reduction due to a double attack where both damage values are max hits.

If you want to be super stafe, you can start your RoST casts at 13%-18%, and duck until you are satisfied. That way you can account for the small chance of the mob going from 18% to 6% or 13% to 1% in a single round, and you still end up with the 6% HP or less needed to one shot the mob.

In a scenario where the mob is at 12% HP and dies due to a double attack with 2 max hits, that is a problem that GGR users have to contend with as well, since they are waiting for a lower HP value before breaking anyway.

[bcbrown]

So it sounds like that you have no objections to my conclusion then:

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So even if you duck off all the misses, there's still a 50% chance of a hit of less than 3% health, leaving you with a mob above 8%, while the GGR user never has the lower-health mob above 6%.

The benefit of GGR is that without it, at least half the time the fight will end with the lower-health mob being 2-4% higher than it would otherwise be if you had an instant-cast invis.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So it sounds like that you have no objections to my conclusion then:

The benefit of GGR is that without it, at least half the time the fight will end with the lower-health mob being 2-4% higher than it would otherwise be if you had an instant-cast invis.

I do not agree with your conclusion.

You clearly didn't read my previous post.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...0&postcount=71

Read it again please.

Hint: The problem with your thinking is you are assuming that you only duck misses. You can duck a 1% HP hit too.

Here is a simple scenario:
1. You want the charmed pet to be at 6% HP or less before breaking charm.
2. The mob attacking your charmed pet reduces 8% HP on a max hit.

If your charmed pet is at 10% HP, there are four possibilities when you start casting RoST:
1. A miss occurs (duck RoST)
2. A hit between 4% and 8% HP occurs (finish casting RoST)
3. A hit between 1% and 3% HP occurs (duck RoST)
4. A lucky double attack kills the pet (this would happen for GGR users too)

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He is standing the entire time during the fight. He does not attempt to get med ticks when he could have. He doesn't even practice what he preaches.

Keep showing what a pathetic distorter you are. A 1 minute fight made for YT is not how someone plays all the time. If you watch the longer fight against Cliff Golem (which you have already), sitting frequently is indeed how the encounter was won.

It's even more insane to keep asking for "evidence" of how spending more time to cast in combat can be a detriment. Anyone who has played this game at a decent level understands that, at least at a basic level. Stop trying to argue things when you're dead wrong. Just admit you prefer to play in a less efficient way. "I like playing with 2 second activation invis more because I don't have to click an extra button to target swap while doing it." It's that simple.

You'd never be satisfied with "evidence" anyway, unless it's an exhausting amount of video footage where someone plays in a high-stress dungeon environment for days using only RoST, and then the same place for days using GRR; nobody wants to waste time on that. It's the equivalent of asking someone "why do you need to eat breakfast to have more energy at work, prove it to me."

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Keep showing what a pathetic distorter you are. A 1 minute fight made for YT is not how someone plays all the time.

Remember when you attacked my 2 minute Enchanter youtube video and completely lied about what my argument and playstyle is in this very thread?

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

your entire sad argument is built on a single example where you don't need instant break, trying to say "see, I didn't need it!", while ignoring the amount of time you're losing with your playstyle.

Thank you for admitting you were wrong to do this, by your own standard.

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you watch the longer fight against Cliff Golem (which you have already), sitting frequently is indeed how the encounter was won.

I did watch the video. You claimed that the Chardok video was "made for YT", which explains why you didn't sit every 6 seconds. However, recording the Cliff Golem video for youtube didn't stop you from doing this where possible. This "made for YT" excuse doesn't hold water. My guess is you generally do not sit every 6 seconds. You do it for a few specific fights where you need the extra mana, and that's it. Again, this is how normal people play. You don't need to be ashamed of being a normie.

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's even more insane to keep asking for "evidence" of how spending more time to cast in combat can be a detriment. Anyone who has played this game at a decent level understands that, at least at a basic level. Stop trying to argue things when you're dead wrong. Just admit you prefer to play in a less efficient way. "I like playing with 2 second activation invis more because I don't have to click an extra button to target swap while doing it." It's that simple.

I am not going to waste time on your delusions about what you think I said. People can read the thread, and see that you are just really bad at reading, or purposely distorting what I said.

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You'd never be satisfied with "evidence" anyway, unless it's an exhausting amount of video footage where someone plays in a high-stress dungeon environment for days using only RoST, and then the same place for days using GRR; nobody wants to waste time on that. It's the equivalent of asking someone "why do you need to eat breakfast to have more energy at work, prove it to me."

I would be satisfied with evidence. You are lying by suggesting otherwise.

If someone claims that the President of Hungary is a space alien, it is not my fault that they made a claim that would be extremely hard to prove. Even if a lot of people agree with the claim that the President of Hungary is a space alien, that doesn't make it true.

"I am too lazy to provide evidence" is not a valid excuse when making a positive claim.

This is one reason why I am skeptical of the claim that "instant cast invis grants more kills per hour when charming". If people are so reluctant to test it, I question if it has ever actually been tested. Simply leveling with GGR is not a comparative test against RoST.

[OriginalContentGuy]

Hypothesis: touch grass
Evidence: this thread
CI:99.99±0.01%

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Remember when you attacked my 2 minute Enchanter youtube video and completely lied about what my argument and playstyle is in this very thread?

No lies happened. Only sad delusions in your head, along with constant failures to understand (or admit) basic concepts. You're the one arguing that people should use a 2 second activation item instead of an instant one. Your own admission of how you play.

[Snaggles]

A couple weeks late but basically while leveling up anything to raise the damage range is the move. Velium crossbows are the most readily available since a level 60 can farm half a bag in a few minutes (you can duel corpse them on the cursor for easy use). I use my Druid to farm them, if you don’t sit you can kill one at a time. Wait for the pathing guard to leave the area.

An argent defender also works (or protector if you plan to burn a Naggy or Vox tooth). It will still dual wield, the offhand just won’t hit as hard as the main hand.

I suppose for the high levels the best would be like a barbarian spiritualist hammer since it procs around 30. It’s an expensive toy though. Gnoll whips for tanking, deadwoods for dps if the tap will land, an argent defender to bump the mainhand dps on stuff a tap won’t land on. Adamantite bo staffs proc a rain spell that won’t hurt the pet. Serrated bone dirks for snaring stuff.

Mages are a bit different as recycling pets can be very efficient eventually and malachite is easy to stock up on. Those low levels with a beefy 2h are crazy tho. Get an Aego on the pet, a regen, and go crazy.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No lies happened. Only sad delusions in your head, along with constant failures to understand (or admit) basic concepts. You're the one arguing that people should use a 2 second activation item instead of an instant one. Your own admission of how you play.

In my first reply to you in this thread, I said I am currently using GGR on my Enchanter:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...1&postcount=43

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I use GGR on my Enchanter for charm breaks. I know how it works. I will be switching to RoST when I can use it.

You are not reading my posts, reading my posts poorly, or lying when you claim my current playstyle does not use GGR.

I will be switching to RoST when I can use it, as there is no evidence to suggest the instant cast invis from GGR will give me more kills per hour compared to RoST.

[Wayward]

Originally Posted by kjs86z2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lmao thinking necros kit is superior for charming

just lmao

Because it is. And your flippant attitude shows me

a) you don't play well as an enchanter.
b) you never played necro.

i can walk around charming on my necro, ripping through zones and remain at between 95% - 100% mana. because necros have the superior charm kit, you dimwitted carp