I havent played since COVID

[Botten]

Originally Posted by Smoofers [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Everyone who was so outspoken about lockdowns and getting the jab is strangely silent now. Wonder why.

2nd variant data shows why.

[Ciderpress]

A generic skepticism of the covid vaccine(s) was and remains completely reasonable. Vaccines take about 10 years to develop, not 8 months or whatever it was. Claiming that it is totally safe on balance is just as foolish is claiming it's totally dangerous on balance. That this seemed to break down so starkly along party lines is both interesting and deeply depressing. It seems we are all lemmings on some level.

P99 is still fun because everquest is still fun if you like everquest, and it's definitely everquest.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Ciderpress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A generic skepticism of the covid vaccine(s) was and remains completely reasonable. Vaccines take about 10 years to develop, not 8 months or whatever it was. Claiming that it is totally safe on balance is just as foolish is claiming it's totally dangerous on balance. That this seemed to break down so starkly along party lines is both interesting and deeply depressing. It seems we are all lemmings on some level.

P99 is still fun because everquest is still fun if you like everquest, and it's definitely everquest.

How long does an mRNA vaccine take? Does it adhere to the ape kidney antigen-adjuvant timeline?

[Reiwa]

What is a vaccine?

[Ciderpress]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How long does an mRNA vaccine take? Does it adhere to the ape kidney antigen-adjuvant timeline?

Well I'd assume it would probably take longer, given the novel nature of both the technology itself as well as the virus it was meant to prevent or lessen. Operation warp speed was kind of funny in retrospect, because it was basically just saying "let's do the thing but like ten times faster!".

I'm reminded of the seinfeld bit about planes and speed. "If you *can* go faster, why don't you just go as fast as you can the whole time?". A huge amount of skepticism came from the claim of long-term safety and efficacy. You simply can't claim something is safe and effective in the long term until it has at least existed in the long term. It got real quacky fast, with people seemingly having clairvoyant access to the future.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Ciderpress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well I'd assume it would probably take longer, given the novel nature of both the technology itself as well as the virus it was meant to prevent or lessen. Operation warp speed was kind of funny in retrospect, because it was basically just saying "let's do the thing but like ten times faster!".

I'm reminded of the seinfeld bit about planes and speed. "If you *can* go faster, why don't you just go as fast as you can the whole time?". A huge amount of skepticism came from the claim of long-term safety and efficacy. You simply can't claim something is safe and effective in the long term until it has at least existed in the long term. It got real quacky fast, with people seemingly having clairvoyant access to the future.

Dr Robert Malone claims to have invented mRNA vaccines in 1988.

Is that long enough