DSM is the hero of the forums and you all are the villains

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My hope is that I can teach a few people the concept that they can be wrong. Cornering someone with facts they cannot dispute (even if they deny it publicly) is a good way to do that.

I suspect the majority of people who are wrong in the US, are wrong because they are immune or averse to reason. This is often a generational condition and passed down as a dominant personality trait.

Being immune to reason completely alters what "correct" and "incorrect" means. People who don't reason, naturally do not experience the chief benefit of reasoning, namely, reason is not ego. But lacking this facility, people immune or averse to reason usually hear "You're wrong" as "You're bad" and feel they are being "judged" when you try to reason with them.

And now for the sadness. Let's grant success. Even if you succeed to baby-walk a reason-averse person to a rational idea, they will not remember it the next day.

Reason is not "sticky" to such people. The truth is an uninvited guest, and is turned out the second you leave them alone with it.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Ciderpress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He chose the respectable ogre face (least-dumb looking). Also the eyes and mouth line up nicely with custom velious helms.

I agree. It is the min/max Ogre face for sure.

Originally Posted by Sadre Spinegnawer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I suspect the majority of people who are wrong in the US, are wrong because they are immune or averse to reason. This is often a generational condition and passed down as a dominant personality trait.

Being immune to reason completely alters what "correct" and "incorrect" means. People who don't reason, naturally do not experience the chief benefit of reasoning, namely, reason is not ego. But lacking this facility, people immune or averse to reason usually hear "You're wrong" as "You're bad" and feel they are being "judged" when you try to reason with them.

And now for the sadness. Let's grant success. Even if you succeed to baby-walk a reason-averse person to a rational idea, they will not remember it the next day.

Reason is not "sticky" to such people. The truth is an uninvited guest, and is turned out the second you leave them alone with it.

I won't say you are wrong. However, I prefer to be optimistic. If everybody gave up on these people, it is a self fulfilling prophecy that they will remain the way they are.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

However, I prefer to be optimistic. If everybody gave up on these people, it is a self fulfilling prophecy that they will remain the way they are.

Oh, one should never give up on people easily.

I have an old friend is a neo-Nazi. He is a kind man to his wife and those he loves. I think he took way too much LSD for someone of his intellect. He was kind of a dumbass in high school.

I don't reason with him. He knows I think he is a "galaxy sized asshole" and I've even been more blunt with him, but since I still call him to chat, what's he gonna do?

Nah, I'm optimist and idealist and that's a hill I'll die on.

Patience is the superior virtue in this life. I'm with you.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Sadre Spinegnawer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh, one should never give up on people easily.

I have an old friend is a neo-Nazi. He is a kind man to his wife and those he loves. I think he took way too much LSD for someone of his intellect. He was kind of a dumbass in high school.

I don't reason with him. He knows I think he is a "galaxy sized asshole" and I've even been more blunt with him, but since I still call him to chat, what's he gonna do?

Nah, I'm optimist and idealist and that's a hill I'll die on.

Patience is the superior virtue in this life. I'm with you.

What year did he become a Nazi? Or are we talking a Buchananite?

[BradZax]

Originally Posted by Sadre Spinegnawer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh, one should never give up on people easily.

I have an old friend is a neo-Nazi. He is a kind man to his wife and those he loves. I think he took way too much LSD for someone of his intellect. He was kind of a dumbass in high school.

I don't reason with him. He knows I think he is a "galaxy sized asshole" and I've even been more blunt with him, but since I still call him to chat, what's he gonna do?

Nah, I'm optimist and idealist and that's a hill I'll die on.

Patience is the superior virtue in this life. I'm with you.

Yeah this spread of DSA is a plague. It wont stop with just your friend, they're going to get bigger and bigger.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What year did he become a Nazi? Or are we talking a Buchananite?

Currently he's a well-off dude who lives off Hollywood Blvd in the east, in a sweet bungalow. His employees live in Silver Lakes and have a commute of death.

American History X came out in the 90's. I want to stipule this is known con stuff.

I believe his explicit neo-Nazism been the case since the 2000's. He's a lifelong biker-adjacent person. His distaste for the homeless especially might seem to indicate retirement in the hills, but he then loses he current biker cred living where he does.

Never externalize what you can't take with you, I say.

[BradZax]

Did he happen to run for office in main? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]