Raid mobs - 30 minute timers, and you. IF YOU RAID, READ IT

[TheDudeAbides]

Most of the bosses fear and dispell.
Charmed pets also have debuffed magic resist. Try killing Nagafen with one cleric and one chanter and see how far you get.

...Also back in the day on live, Enchanters would solo Fire Giants for fun, so gtfo.

The formulas for charm did not work in old school vanilla EQ like they do here and you know it. Don't sit there and pretend that enchanters farmed FGs solo back before Kunark came out. They didn't. Charm didn't have any reliability until dire charm. No enchanters ran around encounters with planar mobs destroying everything in their path back in the day. Not during Kunark. Not during Velious either.

Notice I said Draco and Maestro concerning charmed mobs tanking. That's why you said "most of the bosses" without actually addressing the specific mobs I mentioned. If mass dispell is such an issue why do you see you running around towrads CT with a spectre in tow? Ever heard of buff stacking? Yea I thought so too.

Maestro can be done with 1 enchanter and 1 cleric. You should know since your guild has done it repeatedly while leapfrogging any other guild in the zone. And let's be honest here. Nobody is breaking any new ground here with this content. It was mastered 10 years ago. I mean give me a break.

Stop being a dishonest douchebag

[Finawin]

Lol Enchanters did, I did, and so did my friends.

We did it regularly, even. You were either just bad or are talking straight from your asshole about enchanters. (my guess is both)

Running around Velious charming shit was extremely easy.

[TheDudeAbides]

Originally Posted by Finawin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol Enchanters did, I did, and so did my friends.

We did it regularly, even. You were either just bad or are talking straight from your asshole about enchanters. (my guess is both)

Running around Velious charming shit was extremely easy.

Charm was not this broken in vanilla EQ

Raid mobs were not farmed using charm

Stop kissing people's asses that think more about the shit on the bottom of their shoes than they do you. It's embarrssing

[Finawin]

Who am I kissing up to?

I'm just calling you out on your bullshit. It's kinda "my thing" if you haven't noticed. I have no tolerance for bullshit and you're full of it.

[TheDudeAbides]

Originally Posted by Finawin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Who am I kissing up to?

I'm just calling you out on your bullshit. It's kinda "my thing" if you haven't noticed. I have no tolerance for bullshit and you're full of it.

Thank you for responding to the facts and substance

Unless you want to somehow claim charm was used extensively in 1999 vanilla Eq to farm raid targets like they are here? Or in Kunark? Or Velious raid mobs?

I didn't think so. Go crawl back in your troll hole

[imij]

If i didnt have the guild tag under me (i do not speak on behalf of them btw) would my points be valid then? You see the problem... Variances have worked for quite sometime. but so did rotations when it was only 2 guilds (tho that is wildly debated) 30 minute timer is obviously not working, along with the variances we have.

This server is very competitive if everyone didnt notice. Having more then 5+ guilds now with the variances we have is starting to open doors on future problems. Trakanon anyone? All my post is suggesting (which i should have said in the first place) is variance window should be open for discussion

wider? how about completely random.

If things were completely random on spawn times, this would 100% promote a competitive environment, if it was possible. If nobody knew exactly when CT or Inny were about to pop, we wouldnt have guilds camping and wasting there time. I'm sure any guild who has been using this tactic knows what im talking about. It shouldnt be part of the game. in a way its ruining it. If you cant make it completely random, widen the spawn timer variance, and its done with.

Random spawn times, or wider windows = mobilization and skill more of a focal point. I would also suggest dropping the window of 30 minutes to kill once you have 15 in zone to something a little quicker. Being at the zone in and calling a target is ridiculous... if not, take it away completely. ( earlier suggestion of FFA )


Take it with a grain of salt. This is just my opinion

just saying

Acarer

[Cowboy]

Woah woah everybody, you're gonna have to pay the troll toll to get the boy's hole.

[Audacious93c]

Finawin, you're full of it. Charm wasnt near as powerful as it is now back in Classic.

Acarer, Its funny to see you pointing fingers at Fish Bait when you're in IB.

As for the Fennin Ro comment, I played on the server and the only two guilds that were worth a damn was Silvan Rangers and The Mystical Order from classic all the way to Shadows of Luclin. Hell, TMO is probably still going on strong and Silvan Rangers leader (Faelagund) turned out be a huge Flaming Gaze. Cant say I was glad to be under his leadership for so long.

[Finawin]

I've been there.

I've done it.

I've watched others do it better than even I could handle at the time.

Arena groups with charmed giants anyone? Sure the enchanter or group died now and then, but the rewards far outweighed the risk.

I reiterate the part about you probably being terrible and couldn't handle it.

[TheDudeAbides]

Originally Posted by Finawin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've been there.

I've done it.

I've watched others do it better than even I could handle at the time.

Arena groups with charmed giants anyone? Sure the enchanter or group died now and then, but the rewards far outweighed the risk.

I reiterate the part about you probably being terrible and couldn't handle it.

Are you saying that the charm formulas are the same here that they were in 1999?

Is that what you are trying to tell me right now? Are you saying Maestro and draco were farmed with charmed planar mobs back in 99?

GTFO

Charm was never used this extensively to farm raid mobs. Yes that includes Velious. It was dicey AT BEST. Stop gaslighting shit and trolling up this thread with your asshattery