Earth pet's root lands way too much

[Bazooka]

Originally Posted by Nimblerot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Alright, lets break this down.

The lowest level any class can get the spell Endure Magic is 19. So pre level 20, mages have free reign to kill anyone they want. This is, of course, assuming that a 20 MR buff that can be dispelled will save you, which, given the current resist modifier on the earth pet's root, I'm betting won't unless its a pet much lower level than you.

Do you know why mages weren't given root? Because their damage output between their pet and nukes is insane. If they have a reliable CC like root at any given time, there is no reason to play any other class.

Just because you dont have endure magic doesnt mean you can't root/fear/snare/mez/etc.

lol @ "Free reign to kill whoever they want" if that was so I assure you I would've been corpse camped many times.

I usually opened up PvP with a blind on the mage, fear on the pet then root the mage and nuke them down while casting additional blinds on the mage and additional roots/fear on the pet.

Really not that complicated considering MOST casters get at least root/snare/fear/mez/blind or some spells along those lines.

[Nimblerot]

Originally Posted by Bazooka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just because you dont have endure magic doesnt mean you can't root/fear/snare/mez/etc.

lol @ "Free reign to kill whoever they want" if that was so I assure you I would've been corpse camped many times.

I usually opened up PvP with a blind on the mage, fear on the pet then root the mage and nuke them down while casting additional blinds on the mage and additional roots/fear on the pet.

Really not that complicated considering MOST casters get at least root/snare/fear/mez/blind or some spells along those lines.

I would love to see you fight an equal level mage with an earth pet up. For me at level 9 as a cleric, root, flash of light and stun are chain resisted by players anywhere near my level. If all my spells landed as often as the earth pet's root did, then there wouldn't be a problem.

You're either fighting mages 8 levels lower than you or you're just making stuff up. Root and flash of light land about 10% of the time, and root breaks quickly on any damage dealt.

[Bazooka]

Originally Posted by Nimblerot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would love to see you fight an equal level mage with an earth pet up. For me at level 9 as a cleric, root, flash of light and stun are chain resisted by players anywhere near my level. If all my spells landed as often as the earth pet's root did, then there wouldn't be a problem.

You're either fighting mages 8 levels lower than you or you're just making stuff up. Root and flash of light land about 10% of the time, and root breaks quickly on any damage dealt.

Root/fear/blind land consistently on pets and npcs (About 60-70% for me) even if you get rooted you can fear the pet away. I wouldn't suggest you nuke pets already rooted that's dumb, blind (as far as my experience goes with PC's) lands about 40% ish (as long as they're not already blind). I have stun but have only used it on mobs who heal so far.

As far as roots yeah about 30-40% but I don't waste time trying to root players unless they're already blind.

And the "making stuff up" part, if you can't come up with valid points to argue don't just make retarded accusations.

Forum wars srs bizness y'all.

[Bazooka]

Also until you get a few of those tools to fight back, just go level in less populated areas (there are plenty) and stay alert.

Regardless of class if someone gets the drop on you your in trouble, and if you get the drop on them (regardless if they're mage and you know how to handle pets) they're in trouble. Assuming your near the same levels.

Go farm cash to buy spells other then the 2 you need to PvE, alot of issues people are having have to do with not using tools at their classes disposal.

Not saying mages don't have an advantage they obviously do have an easier/simpler time in the beginning. Just have to be smart, have your tools, know how to use them while being alert.

Just don't think it is as big an issue as people are making (multiple threads concerning "super OP earth pets").

[Nimblerot]

Originally Posted by Bazooka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And the "making stuff up" part, if you can't come up with valid points to argue don't just make retarded accusations.

Forum wars srs bizness y'all.

Wait, what? You claim that you can land spells easily enough, I (and many others, including Null, a dev who just posted he is aware that root doesn't land) claim that spells don't land enough relative to mage pet root. You made no valid points other than how to pvp assuming spells land, which is funny because you just said you've never pvp'd before. Then you claim that I make no valid points...

I didn't post this thread because I wanted to whine. I posted it because we're beta testing where the entire purpose is to notify the devs of things you think need to be looked in to (evidenced by Null's post that followed this thread). Again, you were either fighting someone much much lower level than you, got extremely lucky in one fight with a few spells landing, or are just flat out lying.

Also, at level 9 I have root, stun, fear and blind sooooo I'm not even sure what you're talking about.

[pickled_heretic]

Originally Posted by Bazooka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just don't think it is as big an issue as people are making (multiple threads concerning "super OP earth pets".

i cba to double check but i'm pretty sure there's only one thread about it, it's come up in several other threads though.

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by Bazooka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just don't think it is as big an issue as people are making (multiple threads concerning "super OP earth pets".

It wasn't nearly as easy on them on the classic PvP servers. I know what yer sayin'..but where there's smoke...

[Bazooka]

Originally Posted by Nimblerot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wait, what? You claim that you can land spells easily enough, I (and many others, including Null, a dev who just posted he is aware that root doesn't land) claim that spells don't land enough relative to mage pet root. You made no valid points other than how to pvp assuming spells land, which is funny because you just said you've never pvp'd before. Then you claim that I make no valid points...

I didn't post this thread because I wanted to whine. I posted it because we're beta testing where the entire purpose is to notify the devs of things you think need to be looked in to (evidenced by Null's post that followed this thread). Again, you were either fighting someone much much lower level than you, got extremely lucky in one fight with a few spells landing, or are just flat out lying.

Also, at level 9 I have root, stun, fear and blind sooooo I'm not even sure what you're talking about.

I said it (root) lands often on the PET not players, I also have had it land on players *sometimes* around my level. All the examples I posted are of encounters from this beta. (I'm level 20 and have killed about 14ish people, probably 6-7 of them being mages with 4 probably being within 4 levels of me.)

And I never said pet root wasn't landing more often then it should, it was your "free reign to kill whoever they want" quote that I've seen reflected in other threads that just seems like lazy players not giving themselves the tools (i.e. farming some gold from skeleton weapons or whatever to buy more then the 2 spells they need to PvE) to fight back and blaming a small % bug for getting raped repeatedly.

[Bazooka]

I think the resist system is pretty good overall, when I cast root its not instant death for a melee but with the right combination of other spells and luck I can still get them immobilized enough to finish them before they get away.

Obviously when I get bored and meditate I like to argue and state my un-requested opinion on the interwebz.

[Aesop]

(my experience as a human cleric relates to the mage earth pet somehow)