p99 needs a recruitment drive.

[Talgurin]

Originally Posted by Beeber [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

BTW, this may not be the best opportunity to voice this, but the perception that other MMO's aren't as difficult as EQ was is flat out paint drinking retarded. I was apart of several world first kills in EQ through PoP, and yes..many of the fights are challenging, difficult, and leave little margin for error. But if you really wanna compare attacking AoW or Burrower for 30 minutes in a corner while 10 clerics are macro healing, or zerging Coirnaiv (whatever), or Yelinak, or pushing Aayornar (whatever again) around N ToV to things like the upper end of WoW fights (LK, Vashj, etc), you're crazy.

EQ set the bar for Risk vs Reward as Aradune would have happily admitted to, but don't recollect so fondly in your P1999 hipster fashion that auto attacking stuff is hard.

lol

[fuark]

Originally Posted by Beeber [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

BTW, this may not be the best opportunity to voice this, but the perception that other MMO's aren't as difficult as EQ was is flat out paint drinking retarded. I was apart of several world first kills in EQ through PoP, and yes..many of the fights are challenging, difficult, and leave little margin for error. But if you really wanna compare attacking AoW or Burrower for 30 minutes in a corner while 10 clerics are macro healing, or zerging Coirnaiv (whatever), or Yelinak, or pushing Aayornar (whatever again) around N ToV to things like the upper end of WoW fights (LK, Vashj, etc), you're crazy.

EQ set the bar for Risk vs Reward as Aradune would have happily admitted to, but don't recollect so fondly in your P1999 hipster fashion that auto attacking stuff is hard.

Way to miss the vast majority of things that make EQ difficult. I assure you raid target difficulty is not something that any EQ player would say was what made EQ "hard".

[SyanideGas]

Originally Posted by fuark [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Way to miss the vast majority of things that make EQ difficult. I assure you raid target difficulty is not something that any EQ player would say was what made EQ "hard".

Theres alot to talk about,leveling...corpse runs..Exp loss. no working compass. Yeaah its alot to mention but thats what makes it fun..for me anyway :P

[Beeber]

No shit. But people continue to act as if 'lol ez mode other mmo's' when no one remembers 10 years ago when we wanted more complex, user-controlled raid fights and about as complex as we got was rathe encounter

[Rhaj]

Things that makes games easy

-No Corpse Runs
Item Loss

-Big ???? Over quest givers

-Maps

-Fast Leveling

-Instancing

[Orruar]

How many other MMOs released new expansions before the previous one had even been beaten (OoW released before Tacvi beaten)? Hell, most MMO raid content is beaten by several dozen guilds before the next expansion comes out.

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by Talgurin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm wondering a little bit if releasing the PvP server right now was the best timing given the already decreased population...

A lot of us had essentially quit and were waiting on R99, where others were just waiting. If R99 took away more than 50 players I'd be shocked.

[Talgurin]

I don't play P99 for nostalgia but because it's hard. The only other game that comes close is Darkfall, although I quit DF because you need to find a big guild to protect you from the legions of PKs or it becomes less fun.

Anyway, WoW is so easy it's absurd. I leveled a pally up to around 70 on WoW over a couple of months, but I never once had to group and every single monster is the same, exact, story.

- Crusader Strike
- Slash Slash
- Righteous Blow
- Monster is dead

The only way to challenge myself was to go into old group and raid dungeons by myself and start killing my way through. That was fun, but everything in between was absurdly boring.

And no death penalties took away all tension. The only cool part is that I was playing on a PvP server and that was fairly dynamic, PvP on WoW is excellent.

[AreYouAngered MyBrother]

Originally Posted by Beeber [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

BTW, this may not be the best opportunity to voice this, but the perception that other MMO's aren't as difficult as EQ was is flat out paint drinking retarded. I was apart of several world first kills in EQ through PoP, and yes..many of the fights are challenging, difficult, and leave little margin for error. But if you really wanna compare attacking AoW or Burrower for 30 minutes in a corner while 10 clerics are macro healing, or zerging Coirnaiv (whatever), or Yelinak, or pushing Aayornar (whatever again) around N ToV to things like the upper end of WoW fights (LK, Vashj, etc), you're crazy.

EQ set the bar for Risk vs Reward as Aradune would have happily admitted to, but don't recollect so fondly in your P1999 hipster fashion that auto attacking stuff is hard.

I keep seeing people act like they know how hard Everquest was. You never raided Gates of Discord at 65. You know nothing.

[AreYouAngered MyBrother]

Hell, even Depths of Darkhollow at 70 was unbelievably hard. Plane of Blood was insane.

You WoW kids keep talking tough but you never even did these raids. You quit a long time ago, remember? You were too busy playing WoW.

It doesn't count if you went back and did these encounters at level 85+. When these encounters were new, it took months of practice. Some even took years.