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Old 04-10-2010, 07:29 PM
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I am sure everyone but me will hate this idea --

But, with the influx of new people (especially from the TTH article), the fixing of overpowered crap from the october release (charm for example), and new servers, Datacenters, it would be awesome to have a complete do over [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let those of use who didnt here about it till february have a shot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]


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Old 04-10-2010, 08:37 PM
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Oh, i get it, you have nothing concrete, so you resort to name-calling and gross exxageration. Just to set the record straight, October to April is not 2 months, did you skip that year in elementary school? Maybe you just haven't gotten to that subject yet.

The facts are is that the economy is screwed up do to a duping bug, the server is actually down due to DDoS attacks. This makes it a great time to fix these issues completely.

With upgraded servers and an upgraded data center, It seems like a perfect time for a restart. The economy can be fixed, there are a huge amount of bug fixes in that makes it an even more classic experience than it was in October. You had your chance to start fresh on a new server, why not allow the rest of us that chance as well. There is a huge difference between starting fresh and playing were certain guilds have spawns locked down and level 50's owning lowbie zones pl'ing their twinks.

Give us all a chance to experience it all -- we deserve it.

Oh, and just so you know, my main is level 45, so I would lose quite a bit as well. I just happen to think it would be worth it to experience EQ the way it should be.
Oh my my, I see I'm going to have fun with this one. Let's break it down, now!


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Oh, i get it, you have nothing concrete
Everything I said was conrete. I just said it in a humorous style to lighten the blow of derailing the idea. Would you like it out of hypothetical? Hypothetical scenarios are usually the easier way to understand a concept; but I will appease you. The only two reasons you gave that made sense in anyway can be repeated at any time. At any time one can claim there are new people on the server; at any time a new bug fix can make one man's experience a tiny bit different from another. One cannot reset the server each time this happens. And no, you obviously don't have to do it each time - but why this time and not the next time? If anything, it sets a precedent for each new cast to call back upon.

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so you resort to name-calling
Not once did I call you a name.

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gross exxageration
There is an implicit difference between gross exaggeration and an exaggerated hypothetical scenario. Furthermore, my scenario is not that gross - on the contrary, as mentioned above, it is quite possible.


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Just to set the record straight, October to April is not 2 months
Did I ever say October to April is 2 months? No. But June is 2 months after April! Then August! In MY examples, I was talking about June and August.

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did you skip that year in elementary school? Maybe you just haven't gotten to that subject yet.
Heh. I would list my academic credentials to prove how much smarter I am than you are, but I don't think that's even necessary at this point. Just wait - there's more coming!

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The facts are is that the economy is screwed up do to a duping bug, the server is actually down due to DDoS attacks. This makes it a great time to fix these issues completely.
I do appreciate the fact you used some sort of information to conclude another. However, the economy is not screwed up due to the duping bug. As has been said earlier in this thread, the higher ups have handled most of the damage dealt by this bug.

Furthermore, you do realize that money, almost literally, grows on trees, right? I can visit Guk and walk out of there, in one night, with 30k+ worth of items. Then, I sell them for plat that people collected by killing creatures that spawn every 22-28 minutes that drop money each time, sometimes up to 25 plat a pop (black pearl, FS weap, let's say). Named mobs also drop more expensive items - that just came from nowhere!
Anyone that exploited this bug to the point it actually dents such an economy's structure has been identified and dealt with.

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the server is actually down due to DDoS attacks. This makes it a great time to fix these issues completely.
Noooo it doesn't. That's merely looking for a best-fit opportune time to implement such a change, and that's only presupposing the idea is a given. Since it's an awful idea, it is not presupposed the idea is given. We are missing a premise. The idea is flawed.

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With upgraded servers and an upgraded data center, It seems like a perfect time for a restart.
Same exact thing as above.

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The economy can be fixed, there are a huge amount of bug fixes in that makes it an even more classic experience than it was in October.
Please see above points: the economy is not broken, and we cannot reset the server after a set of bugs are corrected.

If the timeframe of Oct-Apr was enough time to warrant a server reset, it's not a stretch of any logic to assume it will be ready for a reset in the same amount of time again.

We haven't even reached Kunark yet. So, basically, we'll be in perpetual post-solro classic. If by the grace of god we make it to kunark, what are the chances of velious? slim, if there are any at all.

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You had your chance to start fresh on a new server, why not allow the rest of us that chance as well. There is a huge difference between starting fresh and playing were certain guilds have spawns locked down and level 50's owning lowbie zones pl'ing their twinks.

Give us all a chance to experience it all -- we deserve it.
Please see above rebuttal, and the previous one if you need. So sorry you weren't part of the first wave - REALLY I am - but not everyone can be first. That kinda breaks the definition of the word.

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Oh, and just so you know, my main is level 45, so I would lose quite a bit as well.
Yeah, whatev =p. I won't even touch this one because it's too subjective.

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I just happen to think it would be worth it to experience EQ the way it should be.
And I do, as well! Welcome to p99! THE WAY EQ SHOULD BE!
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Old 04-10-2010, 09:02 PM
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Just to add:

Platinum means little to nothing at level 46-50.

Most of us do not want to journey to 50 again, farm stuff we've already done again etc.
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Old 04-10-2010, 09:06 PM
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Nah bro whats the point of 50? Lets just make the server cap 49 and if you ever ding to 50 your character auto delevels to 1 again. It's genius! Imagine the good it will do for all the lowbies! With that active of a low level range of characters we can grow this server to a population of 5000+ in no time!

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Old 04-10-2010, 09:15 PM
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You know it Kad! /fistpump
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Old 04-10-2010, 09:18 PM
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Every idea I've read on this forum has been awful. I didn't get any rubicite, or guise, or jboots, and I still think this is a terrible suggestion.
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Old 04-11-2010, 12:30 PM
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Reseting the server makes no sense and my toon is level 16 which means I would benefit from it.

What would be fun to see is a second server coming up fresh at the same time Kunark is released on p99. On that second new server have both the original & Kunark come up together. I would love to see how that would pan out... (yes, I know there are many barriers since this is a free project, though I still would love to play on that server.)
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Old 04-11-2010, 02:10 PM
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Oh my my, I see I'm going to have fun with this one. Let's break it down, now! ... And I do, as well! Welcome to p99! THE WAY EQ SHOULD BE!
Good. Use your aggressive feelings, boy. Let the hate flow through you.

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Old 04-11-2010, 02:58 PM
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less talking, more polls imo

there have been "beneficial" bugs at start and there was duping. iam not completely for a wipe but a poll would give everyone a chance to vote besides those ~10 forumwarriors here

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Old 04-11-2010, 03:02 PM
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If a server reset ever happened, id farm Manastone's till its removal just to spite all of those suggesting this.

Even breeding everquest childrens to occupy jboots/guise camps isn't out of the question.

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