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Old 04-15-2010, 03:48 PM
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One other thing to keep in mind are how many other people are playing the class. I personally have a hard time sometimes playing something that there's A LOT of so take that into consideration with druids, which there's a lot of. That may also be a problem when you try to find groups and find a bunch of other druids ahead of you, unless of course they're all out soloing.
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Old 04-15-2010, 03:52 PM
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I love druids too - great soloing capability and good in groups. But I think this is kind of stretching it...



Clarity isn't even in the top 5 of an Enchanter's "best spells", much less one of the best spells in the game. Sure, we can argue about what "best spell" even means, but I don't think any of the 4 you listed would be in most people's top 10 (with the possible exception of complete heal).

Just my 2 cents.
If there are 5 better chanter spells than Clarity then name them. (this is P99 remember). Lets be fair and count Mezmorize once not every new mezz spell a chanter gets, and ill give u aoe mezz as a 2nd.
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Old 04-15-2010, 03:55 PM
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uh, HASTE
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Old 04-15-2010, 03:57 PM
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I think alot of you would be surprised to know that at lvl 48 and under, Druid and Wizard Damage:Mana ratio on DD is exactly the same! Only at 49 is it Wiz 2.8 Dru 2.45. BTW Druids get the 2nd biggest nukes in the game!
Clearly, I was speaking towards your original assertion that Wizzy and Druid damage to mana ratios on DD's are Exactly the same. Now if you had asserted that the extra utility makes up for the difference I would have said that's your prerogative to do so. However you did not say that in your original post, you said the ratio's are exactly the same so why roll a wiz! I was simply saying that's a completely false statement, the ratio's are not the remotely the same.
You stated "My theory is that the damage sheild and Str outweigh this 12% so calm down bunkie, you aint disproved a thing." Please show me where you stated that was your theory in the previous post. Acting like what you were saying all along was the utility makes up for the ratio difference is untrue. You stated There was NO difference. Now you have confused a level 23 wizard into thinking that a druid can do exactly the same dps as a wizard but also gets a bunch of utility, and that's simply untrue. This is why your misinformation is harmful, please do a little research before you post broad statements and back it up with some numbers, not just random assertions. Once again your theory was straight up debunked.
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Old 04-15-2010, 04:00 PM
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can you explain?

all this talk about druid and wiz is making me consider a different main. are wizzies really that useless?

my wiz is 23.

mage/nec solo better than wiz

now people are saying druids are on par with wizards? wtf is my wiz going to be good for then [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Play what you want to play. A lot of the above is the "my class is better than your class" crap that was pretty common back in the classic EQ days. I haven't seen much of it here though.

Druids are good at stuff. Wizzies are good at stuff. Mages and Necros? Yep, them too. Actually, every class (well, except Rangers [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] ) are good at stuff. They're all fun to play, and all very different (unlike other mmorpgs where such differences are watered down).
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Old 04-15-2010, 04:00 PM
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Are you insane? Everyone knows illusion: gnome > illusion:dwarf!

Except, of course, for that rare occasion when your female toon has a beard in dwarf from, then the tables are turned and I stand corrected.
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Old 04-15-2010, 04:03 PM
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lol - Illusion: Dwarf for the flips!

Okay...
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Old 04-15-2010, 04:17 PM
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Clearly, I was speaking towards your original assertion that Wizzy and Druid damage to mana ratios on DD's are Exactly the same. Now if you had asserted that the extra utility makes up for the difference I would have said that's your prerogative to do so. However you did not say that in your original post, you said the ratio's are exactly the same so why roll a wiz! I was simply saying that's a completely false statement, the ratio's are not the remotely the same.
You stated "My theory is that the damage sheild and Str outweigh this 12% so calm down bunkie, you aint disproved a thing." Please show me where you stated that was your theory in the previous post. Acting like what you were saying all along was the utility makes up for the ratio difference is untrue. You stated There was NO difference. Now you have confused a level 23 wizard into thinking that a druid can do exactly the same dps as a wizard but also gets a bunch of utility, and that's simply untrue. This is why your misinformation is harmful, please do a little research before you post broad statements and back it up with some numbers, not just random assertions. Once again your theory was straight up debunked.
I made an incorrect statement of fact about mana ratios as a pillar of my theory because I compared mana ratios of equal damage spells , which admittedly was unfair to the wizzie argument. That was just the opening statement before I stated my theory. I'm sorry you are so poorly educated but that was a FACT that I stated incorrectly not a theory. My theory was the next paragraph.

"If you add in the small amount of + damage from strength buffs + the damage from damage shields (Yes wizzies get a damage shield but it is far inferior) It could be argued that Druids out DPS wizzies in grps! Add in the druid dot that is irresistible to anything within 8 levels (live) and has a 3.2 D:M at lvl 44 and you have a convincing argument!"

Don't get upset because you don't know the diff tween a Fact and theory, I admit I got the facts wrong pre 48, but I have them right post 49, and it doesn't matter anyways, 80+% of peeps reading this will roll druids over wizzies.

Also, If you quoted my whole statement, you best off read it, and if you read it and forgot what I said in it so quickly, then we know your mental capacity.

Go shoot up the post office you work at then take my advice on your new druid...115 points in wisdom :P
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Old 04-15-2010, 04:22 PM
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I think I'm starting to form a theory too.
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Old 04-15-2010, 04:26 PM
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And the winner is.....

Play the class you will enjoy most!

I have a friend who loves to nuke for big numbers, he takes screenshots n prints them out and puts them in Christmas cards! The guy is nuts, but for him, anything but a wizzie is a poor choice.

I have another friend who talks about damage mitigation on his warrior all the time, he loves to go to places where lower lvl mobs hit him for hours without him dying and he takes screen shots of that crap, so for him, there is no other choice but a warrior.

Decide what you enjoy doing most and pick a class that does it well, if every person on here agreed that Druids were best, but you rip your hair out every time someone asks for a sow or port...
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