Mayong Mistmoore

[Pheer]

I really dont get why people are going apeshit over a fanged skull stiletto and comparing it to high end kunark gear.

Seriously, have you guys seen the plane of sky class specific stuff? Some of those items could last you till PAST kunark easily, and some of the clickies I could see someone using indefinitely.

[eqravenprince]

I assume the GM's are fair and decent people. And until I see unfairness firsthand, I'm not going anywhere. All I know is I've petitioned twice which were answered extremely quickly and politely. There still isn't a better game out there.

[Aeolwind]

Originally Posted by Throttle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the administration does at time seem less than professional in their conduct as well.

I've said in other threads, I'm not a professional. I'd be making a whole lot more. So, start paying me a salary and I'll be happy to coddle you. The sense of entitlement of folks is quite humorous. Aside from donations to keep the server up so you can play is about all that is asked for. If those go away then the server will move to a garage box with a cap of 70ish players. This is an open source project, we're just as frustrated with non-live like issues as everyone else is and we have the same inability to fix those due to lack of skill set or lack of time.

The horse is dead and buried. The beatings will continue to occur most likely, but words without action are hollow. Screaming fix this without being part of the solution is ignorant & futile.

[Dolalin]

Powergamers make great testers, that explains their close relationship with the devs in every game out there. This is nothing abnormal. And besides guys, it's an EMU server. Come on.

[Aeolwind]

Originally Posted by JohnPublic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thank you for clearing that up Aeolwind. As it stands will he continue to drop the FSS? Is he on an extended timer?

I can't imagine that anyone is upset as a single FSS as they were handed out with some regularity on live, but the prospect of outfitting an entire guild with them in a few weeks is a bit scary.

Mayong will be a one and done. As such, there will only be 1 legit Mayong kill.

[yaaaflow]

Now that is disappointing. Can I ask why that decision was made?

[thrawnseg]

Originally Posted by Aeolwind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Mayong will be a one and done. As such, there will only be 1 legit Mayong kill.

So there is one more kill out there then...Then he's gone.

[Fugly]

There was nothing fishy about or 17 man Naggy kill. Cohort and Draum didn't give themselves uber gear or anything. Overall, their role in the kill was very small. Knowing what we know now, I'm sure all of us wish we could go back and not bother with those two, but we can't. We had ongoing, and rather dramatic, discussions about how the guild could/should/will handle the situation, and could never come to an agreement. Some people suggested was that no matter what we did, certain people would never shut up anyways, so why cater to them? Others suggested willingly giving up loot and titles, and have Naggy respawned for a non-tainted "first" kill. Time went by and we never really came to a conclusion, Naggy respawned, and we killed him again just fine, in fact, it was easier this time. And don't even try to attribute it to mage pets or zerging.

At the end of the day though, there were 15 legit players there, a solid strategy, and an excellent execution (also: Naggy isn't hard, resist gear isn't necessary, lrn2heal, lrn2hide). If you were farming lower guk all day in a full group, got yourself an SMR, a Yak, an FBSS, or whatever else you're after, then find out one of your group members cheated somehow to level/gear up his character that had nothing at all to do with the current group, would you be so willing to give up the rewards of the time and effort you put into that group? I certainly wouldn't expect anyone to.

By the way, I've also suggested to the guild that we willingly bank our planar gear until the corresponding plane is opened, but at this point I don't think the complainers will ever be satisfied, so why bother?

[Pyrocat]

I love your signature Fugly <3

[Pyrocat]

Originally Posted by Throttle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The administrative staff needs to be very careful how they appear to the community. You need to do one of two things: stop being around whenever a specific group of players do things, or stop coming off as excessively defensive when the inevitable questions begin.

1) Of course GMs will be around when boss mobs are killed for the first time. There is absolutely nothing improper about this. GMs are there to watch something they put their hard work into finally be experienced by a group of players for the first time. They're there to make sure that Nagafen doesn't explode or crash the zone .etc .etc. I'd imagine they're also there to make sure no one exploits and, when the situation warrants, to give out titles.

2) You'd be defensive too if you worked on a project for months and months and put countless unpaid hours into and once it launches people start accusing you or saying you're doing a bad job.

The GMs for the most part (from what I've seen) have been very patient, very understanding, and very willing to disclose information. That said, I don't blame any GMs if they get upset at reading through one too many accusations and trolls. Imagine yourself in their shoes before getting all riled up. This isn't like live, this isn't a paid service, the guy with the green name is NOT being paid, so you can't just treat them like you'd treat a nameless SOE employee and expect to be given a "sorry sir of course the customer is always right".