Red99 Stimulus Plan (some constructive feedback) - Page 20

Softcore PK · #**191** 12-20-2011, 05:18 PM

Are the VZTZ and TZT players really the people we even want to be playing here? I feel we have more than enough of them already, and for the population to improve we need some more variety.

Massive Marc · #**192** 12-20-2011, 05:20 PM

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Are the VZTZ and TZT players really the people we even want to be playing here? I feel we have more than enough of them already, and for the population to improve we need some more variety.

You can't say in one post you want to improve the population numbers and then in the next post talk about who should and shouldn't be allowed to play.

You're kinda dumb eh ?

Slave · #**193** 12-20-2011, 05:21 PM

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It's very cool that you had so much fun on SZ, but most players do not want to put up with all that grief. We need bluebies to play here, and we're not going to get any by training them.

Again, your unsupported opinion. What seems to be the real issue is that oldschool PvP players came here expecting a Classic PvP experience and it is completely lacking. There are not any rules in place from either SZ nor the important ones from RZ that would classify this as a Classic PvP server.

The mechanics and the rules just aren't there. We have no item loot, no teams, we have people taking advantage of the Play Nice policy to cause greatly increased mob-style exp death to players wherever possible, we have an artificial level range restriction to PvP. We have no exp bonus and no exp restriction on death to mobs. There are exp penalties in place for hybrids, there are major Classic mechanics (bugs? so were a lot of things that later got 'fixed' and ultimately turned EverQuest into every other MMORPG) that are not being reproduced in PvP for whatever reason.

Your earlier paragraph on being nice to your fellow humans was nice, but your standard bluebie thoughts on server mechanics are what got into this low-population bind to begin with and I don't believe they are well-considered.

Softcore PK · #**194** 12-20-2011, 05:21 PM

VZTZ players ruined their own lands, I'd really prefer they not ruin mine.

Massive Marc · #**195** 12-20-2011, 05:23 PM

Problem is, it's not yours. It's ours.

Vile · #**196** 12-20-2011, 05:24 PM

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VZTZ players ruined their own lands, I'd really prefer they not ruin mine.

If VZTZ had the anti hacks in place that R99 has and some stable GMs.. it would've never died.

Simple as that.

Without us there would be no R99. We had no home and Rogean listened to our cries.

Softcore PK · #**197** 12-20-2011, 05:28 PM

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Again, your unsupported opinion. What seems to be the real issue is that oldschool PvP players came here expecting a Classic PvP experience and it is completely lacking. There are not any rules in place from either SZ nor the important ones from RZ that would classify this as a Classic PvP server.

The mechanics and the rules just aren't there. We have no item loot, no teams, we have people taking advantage of the Play Nice policy to cause greatly increased mob-style exp death to players wherever possible, we have an artificial level range restriction to PvP. We have no exp bonus and no exp restriction on death to mobs. There are exp penalties in place for hybrids, there are major Classic mechanics (bugs? so were a lot of things that later got 'fixed' and ultimately turned EverQuest into every other MMORPG) that are not being reproduced in PvP for whatever reason.

Your earlier paragraph on being nice to your fellow humans was nice, but your standard bluebie thoughts on server mechanics are what got into this low-population bind to begin with and I don't believe they are well-considered.

RZ and SZ weren't the only pvp servers. Everyone seems to prefer the ruleset their grew up with, rose tinted glasses when reminiscing and all that..

And if my bluebie thoughts are what got us here, why is the server doing better than VZTZ ever did? That server went out of its way to downplay the bluebie parts of the game.

Djanis · #**198** 12-20-2011, 05:29 PM

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There was a server worse then this.

SZ had classic xp with xp lost in pvp and legal trains.. shhh

Sullon had a permanent server wide exp bonus and hardcoded teams. Let me know what server you are talking about that is worse then this, cause it aint SZ lol. Only one i can think of would be Discord.

Slave · #**199** 12-20-2011, 05:30 PM

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RZ and SZ weren't the only pvp servers. Everyone seems to prefer the ruleset their grew up with, rose tinted glasses when reminiscing and all that..

And if my bluebie thoughts are what got us here, why is the server doing better than VZTZ ever did? That server went out of its way to downplay the bluebie parts of the game.

I believe it was the hacking. Right? Did I win?

gloinz · #**200** 12-20-2011, 05:36 PM

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Sullon had a permanent server wide exp bonus and hardcoded teams. Let me know what server you are talking about that is worse then this, cause it aint SZ lol. Only one i can think of would be Discord.

clearly never griefed greenie