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[ZEROSUM]

Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Except that the stock emu code has virtually no pathing, no cheat detection, no working instrument modifiers, extremely buggy/unbalanced spells, and unbelievable amounts of exploits (including dupe exploits, recharging exploits, and exploits with modifying the spells file that are fixed only on p99). Are you trolling?

No Pathing. False. Built into the core of eqemulator c. 2002. Thousands of nodes. Can easily add more with #commands

No Cheat detection. False. VZ/TZ created the first anti warp/zone/ghost/etc detector, and now comes stock. March 2008.

Buggy, unbalanced spells? You probably can't actually name any but need specifics. Either way, database edits for the most part, easy fix.

Instruments don't work. False. We've been over this before. I equip drum, I run faster. I equip lute, my dot hits harder. What more could you possibly want?

Exploits. Recharging can be toggled with basic C++ knowledge. Spell file fix is pretty common knowledge now, the crc32 checksum was cracked to be from some obscure algorithm, and in fact given to Voidd for vztz by p99 staff. Any dupe bug discovery is fixed on both p99 and the Emu stock.

[Lazortag]

1. I played on VZTZ and the pathing was abysmal compared to p99's. It makes the server look like no work was put into it if you aggro a frog in lguk and it beelines through the wall to get to you, with no collision detection. P99 has far better developed pathing than every other emu server. You're just straight up full of shit if you say otherwise.

2. When I say "no cheat detection", I mean "no reliable cheat detection". Obviously I'm aware that VZTZ had some kind of system for detecting cheats, it was just markedly inferior to p99's.

3. In the thread I linked I gave a few examples of unbalanced spells.

4.

Instruments don't work. Wrong. We've been over this before. I equip drum, I run faster. I equip lute, my dot hits harder. You're straight up lying about that.

Okay, now I know I'm being trolled. The point is that the modifiers didn't work properly on VZTZ. They were barely functional. Instrument swapping didn't work (so if you tried to modify two dots at once with two different instruments, that wouldn't work). Certain songs would not get modified by their appropriate instruments. Also lots of spells didn't stack as they should (like many of the bard dots).

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Exploits. Recharging can be toggled with basic C++ knowledge. Spell file fix is pretty common knowledge now, and in fact given to Voidd for vztz by p99 staff. Any dupe bug will be fixed on both p99 and the Emu stock.

Right, so you admit that all of these exploits were on VZTZ and never got fixed. That was my point.

[ZEROSUM]

It's not worth the energy to further prove you wrong on those points as I already did so. Everything you bitch about is extremely minor, or as proven often nonfactual/hyperbole.

You have no respect for history young whippersnapper. VZ/TZ was not some trashy fly by night server full of bugs as you often imply and fantasize. It remains one of the longest lasting servers, among the highest populated, and still the most successful pvp box ever out of the many that have popped up over the years (bloods vs crips, discord of harmony, cohpvp 1 and 2, empires 1 and 2, guild wars 1-X, kings and bandits, sons of zek, qeynos vs freeport, crucify, bane of life, red69, ad nauseum). They actually contributed more to EQEmu than p99 has, simply by virtue of the fact that they released its source. Granted since Rogean is the lead dev of both emu and p99, you could argue he ports major changes over and I would say that is fair.

VZ/TZ certainly did more for the palability of EQEmu than any of the mouth breathers trash talking it have.

[Slug]

Wolfram, embarrassment is a color that suits you - continue in ignorance!

[Harrison]

Lol he REALLY does think so, or is trolling hard...can't tell.

[ZEROSUM]

Witness Harrison as he often does inject himself into discussions he knows nothing about just so he can parade his ignorance

[Harrison]

I've played both vztz(lolbad) and P99. I know plenty about both.

You're living in some fantasy world where you believe vztz was anything but absolutely fucking hilariously terrible.

[Doors]

Originally Posted by ZEROSUM [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Witness Harrison as he often does inject himself into discussions he knows nothing about just so he can parade his ignorance

[SearyxTZ]

Originally Posted by Harrison [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've played both vztz(lolbad) and P99. I know plenty about both.

lol

Yeah, I don't remember you playing on any red server bro - I've been on all of them. Sadly, the only thing you're known for is being the fat retarded guy who spends way too much time riding the nuts of red server players.

[Harrison]

Once that failbox finally choked into oblivion we got inundated by 4chan-esque inbreds who still act like they're 12 and found out about image macros like they're still new.

Your "community" is a seething pool of pathetic children. You finally got your server and all you can do is cry about getting it. You knew it was going to be classic, yet you still bleed your teeny vaginas all over the forums about it.

Legitimate concerns such as exploit fixes, bug fixes, content fixes(to classic, etc.) are second in your minds to, "OMG WE NEED MOAR XP AND YT AND LEADERBOARDS OR SERVAR IS DED"

It's so disgustingly sad how you get the best thing to happen since EQ's release itself, and it still isn't good enough for you petulant twat-expulsions. I hope they pull the plug on you troglodytes.