Where did EQ Live go wrong?

[Brimacombe]

Well, what I noticed from going back to live is a lot of content was tailored specifically for one time one place. When I went to live during the Underfoot expansion everyone was rusting at the top and the content for about 40 levels was geared for full groups of raid geared twinks. They never readjusted the content from when it was cap. This was a major turn-off as a returning player. I made it to cap so I could finally group, but by the time I got there the taste was so ashen that I soon after quit.
As far as where EQ went wrong, I cannot say. I was 29 at the time and the travelling bug bit me and I moved to New Orleans and RL was too interesting.

[Clint]

Originally Posted by Hamahakki [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cats on the moon

Yaup. Pretty much this.

[Dravingar]

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To be fair, the frogloks and iksar and drakkin and whatever else are still pretty "humanoid". They are bipedal creatures with 2 legs, 2 arms, and a head. I wish fantasy games would get outside of the "torso+head+2arms+2legs" theme, but then we usually start thinking "alien" territory.

Think of the quad wielding DPS that could happen.

Also, everquest went wrong when it let retards run amok aka late PoP/Onwards. Even though cat people were stupid as fuck.

[Slippery]

Nobody would play anything but that ^. Lol.

[JoeyD]

EQ Live went wrong when they started selling druids like me out, Plains of Power totally screwed everything for my port grind.. Pointless money hungry expansions.

[Dravingar]

Originally Posted by JoeyD [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

EQ Live went wrong when they started selling druids like me out, Plains of Power totally screwed everything for my port grind.. Pointless money hungry expansions.

I honestly wonder if half of the people who bitch about how PoP "ruined my druid/wizard" actually played the class as a main and not a whored out bot for cash. Porting people is fucking retarded to do full time and was not a function of my class, I liked luclin/PoP because that's when a druid came into their own and was able to do things unique and not just derpa derpa, i'm the 6th slot of the group and here to port the group out of chardok.

[kaev]

Originally Posted by Grozmok [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This.

That's the biggest issue I have with newer MMORPGs, everything is omg-impulse-ADD-personality-gotta-have-it-now-omfg get you there in a jiffy.

Don't blame the game companies for that. It's the players (aka "the market" in corporatespeak). I was playing on Tunare server from July of '99 and that attitude was most definitely already strong and growing steadily stronger among the players during Kunark. Even before Kunark's release the in-game community started going to shit, long before SoE transformed the game into something unrecognizable.

There was an occasional localized renewal of community. I played on Stromm server when it opened with the LoY expansion and there I had a good six months or so of tremendous fun. This was well after Luclin & PoP had supposedly "ruined" EQ. Then the server community's attention shifted to the end game (in all its variety, raiding was not everybody's end game by any means), players focussed on their little niche interests and the broader community went to shit just as it had during the 4 months or so leading up to the Kunark expansion way back at the beginning.

SoE did plenty of stupid things with EQ, but it was the players that "ruined" EQ. The funniest part is that they (we) did it over and over again. (Should be saying "changed" really. My/your fun may have been ruined, but the game is bigger than you or me. We're not the only ones playing it.)

[Kieren]

It went bad after EQ2 & WoW came out. Most people left. 2002-2004 was great!! :-)

[Xatava]

EQ live went wrong with LoY. What was that piece of garbage, $30 for 5 useless zones and a playable froglok that looks worse than the original guk model? Oh yeah, and it provided maps to make life easier for people using macroquest. Whoopie.

[Dravingar]

Originally Posted by Xatava [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

EQ live went wrong with LoY. What was that piece of garbage, $30 for 5 useless zones and a playable froglok that looks worse than the original guk model? Oh yeah, and it provided maps to make life easier for people using macroquest. Whoopie.

Only reason I bought that shitty expansion was it doubled your bank space.