Ragefire Agreement/Rotation

[relapsee69]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This rotation should not have been posted until it had run it's initial ib/tmo course and actually included everyone. People are too stupid to realize past their own interests.

First, there is nothing stopping anyone from breaking this, I agree. However, It most likely won't be IB or TMO fucking with each other. Thus, if a random from some guild comes to mess with another guild, you're going to see that guild get shit on by IB/TMO for making their collective lives harder (we do it to each other, don't think we won't do it to you).

Second, While I do agree Ninik deserves her epic more than most of the clerics on this server, I can understand the 'time invested' part. This pre-rotation of rotations will run it's course then all the other guilds can run in and start their own bullshit if they want (i'm sure it will happen).

So yeah, Taken, BDA, Divinity or any other guild could come in and start clicking IB or TMO's air, but what you're opening is going to be way worse than what you imagine. As you will effectively guarantee that your guild not get an epic as easy as you would have.

Aka, you idiots just don't know.

Agreed ^

[maverixdamighty]

mess with the rotation and you will get bullied... got it!

[Acillatem]

I look at it as more of finding a "compromise" to the solution. Right now the only 3 guilds demonstrating the *ability* to kill Naggy (the trigger mob) are IB/TMO/VD.

While I am in VD, I also realize we are not included in the original 5, and I am OK with that. We are, to a lesser degree, the medium between IB/TMO and Taken/Div/BDA etc.

So while I sympathize with other guilds - I also ask - what sense of entitlement do you feel should be granted if you aren't willing to make SOME sort of effort? Being in the middle - I don't EXPECT us to be in the top 5, but since we do kill Naggy somewhat regularly - I would expect us to be in the rotation as it is.

On a personal note, I have a lot of friends in both TMO and IB. I think we can all agree to disagree at times, and other times there comes a point where you need to suck it up and agree to agree.

This is one of those times. Hundreds of hours being wasted over a click. The need arose to agree to agree. Perhaps the need will arise elsewhere.

[maverixdamighty]

ability to kill naggy? i don't buy that. Right now there are 3 guilds who kill nagafen right away when he spawns. I agree with that and it's part of why those guilds are getting epics right now. If another guild wants to be included they would be expected to contribute to ensuring nagafen is dead within hours of him spawning.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by maverixdamighty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ability to kill naggy? i don't buy that. Right now there are 3 guilds who kill nagafen right away when he spawns. I agree with that and it's part of why those guilds are getting epics right now. If another guild wants to be included they would be expected to contribute to ensuring nagafen is dead within hours of him spawning.

hours? try seconds-minutes. No cleric wants naggy up for "hours".

[maverixdamighty]

yes next time he's up i'll start my stop watch and see if you mobilize kill him within seconds/minutes. i've seen the precision of those raids and it leaves alot to be desired...

[Skope]

*ability* isn't *willingness*. I've got access to an alt raidforce myself with enough enough numbers to drop nag. If these dumbass variances were on classic you'd have a lot more than 3 guilds to talk with to get to an agreement. Nobody in divinity will poopsock, and I'm pretty sure Taken and BDA are in that boat as well. Like I said, when we played fair and competed (and I played fair) Rogean took a nice hot dump down our throats and left us with a rather bad taste in our mouths. If you really want to see competition again, whether for naggy and Ragefire or sev/trak/VS or anything worth dropping you've gotta see the problem behind this small issue and not just your clickstick.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by maverixdamighty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yes next time he's up i'll start my stop watch and see if you mobilize kill him within seconds/minutes. i've seen the precision of those raids and it leaves alot to be desired...

i've not seen yours... wonder why.

[Sizzle]

Being as this topic no longer is a serious thing, I think it is about time it gets moved to RnF, nothing to truely serious on p99.

[Skope]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i've not seen yours... wonder why.

read above. Autotune, it's something even you said is a big problem. I'm here telling you I agree with you and I won't partake in the nonsense :P