Tip your Porter

[Maze513]

sometimes on my shaman Ill just buff the shit outta the porter, cuz after all, all they spent was mana so I can atleast do the same thing

[Danyelle]

Originally Posted by the best [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1pp per level or free if you are naked, even if you want to undress in front of me.

This is an effective method, I've tried. I also try to cry some while undressing as sometimes the Druid will give ME plat.

[Within99]

Originally Posted by Danyelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is an effective method, I've tried. I also try to cry some while undressing as sometimes the Druid will give ME plat.

That's deep.

[Vladigan]

Originally Posted by Scavrefamn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All I got from this thread is that a lot of people are really really dumb...

You expect plat from people but absolutely refuse to ask for it and become upset when no one pays you.
That's teenage-girl level of logic right there.

If you do it for free, that's commendable.
If you do it for free but expect payment, you aren't doing it for free in the first place and should charge a fee instead of crying when no one pays.
The.End.

This just in... all ports for you now cost a flat fee of 10,000k plat... enjoy your boat rides [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Everyone else is still allowed to DONATE whatever they can afford.... just don't pull up up in a limo and give a nickel tip, you wont ride again... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Scavrefamn]

Originally Posted by Kassel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

a donation is no longer voluntary when the provider has advised his client that the port is conditional based on a required donation.

When a donation stops being voluntary, it stops being a donation and becomes a fee and we come back to my original point.

What you and the others want is to charge a fee but for some reason you don't want to admit that.
If you refuse to charge a fee and rely on donations, you are offering the service for free.

This is going in circles, gg thread, I've made my point and refuted the bad logic of OP.

[BarackObooma]

[QUOTE=Grozmok;596091]Well, according to all of these ballers in this thread, 500pp+ since "Druids can make more per hour killing sea furies in OOT."

I can speak to the comparative opportunity cost of porting vs. quadding seafuries.

After a sample size of 750-1000 seafuries I can tell you that the average seafury drops an average of 41pp in coin, gem and other vendor loot. Killing Seafuries equates to an average of 164pp per quad. This averages about 800pp an hour. If there's very few people killing them, you can make 1000pp an hour and if there's a lot of people fighting for them (in which case I usually do something else), it can be as bad as 200-400pp an hour.

As a wizard, it takes about 70%-80% of my mana pool (decent gear, not uber) to quad. To port someone and then self port somewhere (not factoring in running time), the mana it would equate to would be 37pp.

Thunderstruck AkaBarackObooma
57 Wizard

[Flunklesnarkin]

Boat doesn't take all that long to ride.



usually 20~30 min's to get to dreadlands.. beats standing around shouting for a port lol

I'll shout once or twice.. if nobody is porting its boat time for me. (it's not like you have to stare at your character once its on the boat.. do something else browse the webs ;p)

yes i do tip.. i think everybody should.. in fact i shout WTB port even to let them know i will be "tipping"

[erog84]

Originally Posted by Scavrefamn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When a donation stops being voluntary, it stops being a donation and becomes a fee and we come back to my original point.

What you and the others want is to charge a fee but for some reason you don't want to admit that.
If you refuse to charge a fee and rely on donations, you are offering the service for free.

This is going in circles, gg thread, I've made my point and refuted the bad logic of OP.

That is a cool shirt you have! Man she is Hot! Those sentences don't even make sense right, let me whip out my dictionary and prove it! /sarcasm

Anyone with common sense knows when someone says " porting for donations " that they are not REQUIRING anything, but it would be nice to tip them.... When you join group for port the druid doesn't say " where is my tip? no tip no port ", but they sure as heck feel good when they get one. The point people are trying to make (which is VERY easy to understand) is when you are courteous enough to give a port, the person getting ported should be courteous enough to pay what they can. Sometimes it's nothing, sometimes its 1pp and other times it 200pp, that is why they say Porting for Donations, instead of porting for 100pp. I don't think it's too hard to understand, but if you are deadset about the "technical definition" of something, then I'm sure there are a lot of other things you can get confused about too.

[Grozmok]

Originally Posted by BarackObooma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can speak to the comparative opportunity cost of porting vs. quadding seafuries.

After a sample size of 750-1000 seafuries I can tell you that the average seafury drops an average of 41pp in coin, gem and other vendor loot. Killing Seafuries equates to an average of 164pp per quad. This averages about 800pp an hour. If there's very few people killing them, you can make 1000pp an hour and if there's a lot of people fighting for them (in which case I usually do something else), it can be as bad as 200-400pp an hour.

As a wizard, it takes about 70%-80% of my mana pool (decent gear, not uber) to quad. To port someone and then self port somewhere (not factoring in running time), the mana it would equate to would be 37pp.

Thunderstruck AkaBarackObooma
57 Wizard

All this math hurts my walnut sized troll brain.

I guess my point was that I felt (totally anecdotal, as always) the amount of work involved scaled directly proportionate to the amount of coin received.

Originally Posted by Vladigan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

just don't pull up up in a limo and give a nickel tip, you wont ride again... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

C'mon dude, the smart gamers bag their shit before sending a tell.

[Scavrefamn]

Originally Posted by erog84 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

/snip

Heh , you're the one that's confused, look at the title thread.
Your position is the one that is "waaah"ing about how things are, not mine.

I will never pay someone for something they are offering for free which is what you do. You ask for no pay, offer for free but then complain when people take you up on your offer, not sure what part of that is difficult for you to understand...

Okay NOW I'm out, oh and thanks for the free ports [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]