GLOBAL ooc/auction. Poll time.

[nilbog]

I still do not understand the "can't find groups" argument.

So.. over the past few days, I tried several / all LFG

First one, 30 matches. Various levels, guilds, etc.

35 matches

25 matches

40 matches!

33 matches

and currently, at 12:45pm cst, 25 people LFG.

So, if you are using OOC to look for a group, and 25-35 people aren't spamming ooc for LFG, you are limiting the groups you can possibly get by not doing / all LFG.

This particular argument holds no value with me anymore.

[Myrkskog]

So what argument is there left for global channels besides having an in game IRC Nilbog?

[astarothel]

The /lfgs for tanks or clerics is much more sparse. Finding a replacement (especially when pretty much every levelling cleric except me is /anon or /role) isn't always so easy with a lower population.

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by astarothel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The /lfgs for tanks or clerics is much more sparse. Finding a replacement (especially when pretty much every levelling cleric except me is /anon or /role) isn't always so easy with a lower population.

Then its sparse anyways. ooc was never intended to be a source of finding groups, and never was, afaik.

Population has an affect on /lfg. ooc does not. If you want to /roleplay or /anon, that is your right.

It decreases your visibility, as intended.

[astarothel]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Population has an affect on /lfg. ooc does not.

Yep, and it's a population issue which is why I voted to keep the global at this time. OOC currently helps grouping at a lower population because a person who is /anon, not currently tagged for /lfg, or is on an alt might consider joining.

I don't want global forever, I just don't think we have enough people active on the server at this time -- another 200 people constantly to our population and my position would change.

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by astarothel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yep, and it's a population issue which is why I voted to keep the global at this time. OOC currently helps grouping at a lower population because a person who is /anon, not currently tagged for /lfg, or is on an alt might consider joining.

If someone chooses to be /anon or /roleplay has no relevance to this topic. You're trying to tell me that /anon is great for clerics or porters, except when they need a group. That's just the way the game works.

So what argument is there left for global channels besides having an in game IRC Nilbog?

The only resonating validity I can see for global chats is the helping of new people. They probably got eq to work out of the box.. but might not be able to get eqemu working without assistance. That's the reason I gave a month ago, and has been barely touched on here.

Most of the arguments in favor of keeping them... seem to be unneeded luxuries, of I "want" this, because its "easier" for this.

Someone in this thread said training wheels. They need to be cut off.

[Myrkskog]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only resonating validity I can see for global chats is the helping of new people. They probably got eq to work out of the box.. but might not be able to get eqemu working without assistance. That's the reason I gave a month ago, and has been barely touched on here.

95% of the questions from new people are unrelated to technical problems and could easily be looked up with google. Between a spell website and allakhazam(both listed on our stickied reference thread) all these "Do enchanters get pet's at level 1" and "Where does XX drop again" questions are easily answered. People only ask in OOC because it's easy, not because they're truly lost.

The most difficult aspect of playing P1999 is actually getting it running in the first place, and you can't ask questions in OOC until it's up and running anyways. Besides, every time someone asked about dual core or another genuine problem in OOC, it's answered by "check the forums."

Speak of the devil, I am logged in right now and this conversation just happened. Here is the transcript.

"Does any1 know how to fix the amd dual core problem? I downloaded the drivers, but still the same shit now."

"It's on the forums, I recommend searching for dual core."

"K TY."


We're not giving people enough credit, if they were able to get it running in the first place, they should be able to find a solution to their technical problems as well. Why not have a message whenever a new character logs in for the first time along the lines of;

"Welcome to Project 1999. Please be aware that due to the age of the Everquest engine, you may experience technical issues relating to your hardware or software. If you are experiencing anything unusual, please consult our comprehensive technical forum at http://project1999.org. For all game related questions, there are beginning guides and reference websites stickied on our general forum, or feel free to ask! Enjoy your stay!"

[Tallenn]

Originally Posted by Myrkskog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

95% of the questions from new people are unrelated to technical problems and could easily be looked up with google. Between a spell website and allakhazam(both listed on our stickied reference thread) all these "Do enchanters get pet's at level 1" and "Where does XX drop again" questions are easily answered. People only ask in OOC because it's easy, not because they're truly lost.

SNIP

this

[astarothel]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If someone chooses to be /anon or /roleplay has no relevance to this topic. You're trying to tell me that /anon is great for clerics or porters, except when they need a group. That's just the way the game works.

I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.

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[Myrkskog]

I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.

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