Email to 3000+ ex VZTZ players

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Avon Barksdale [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"I got stuck on 45 (as a ranger), groups were hard to come by and leveling was slow (even with people helping to pl). A combination I guess of rl stuff coming up and the game getting really slow. The gm favoritism was bad too. Honestly I wanted to post something but never did about how I thought they could make the server better for everyone. I thought they got way too involved in situations where it would have been more fair to just leave them alone (like trying to police training and exploiting - but neglecting to punish one side or another when there were multiple parties involved). Like, everyone has an equal opportunity to exploit, so let PvP take care of who gets the chance to do it and let it happen til a fix is patched in if you can't figure how how to punish everyone fairly. And just let everyone adjust to dealing with training and denying trains via PvP. GMs complained so much about crying, finger pointing, and rules lawyering, and how they didn't have time to deal with that, so why not just let fucking PvP take care of everything? IDK, stupid shit like that killed it for me. Forum browsing and trolling was probably the most fun part of that server before I stopped playing. Didn't help that shortly thereafter my apartment was broken into and alot of my shit was stolen (including my gaming laptop/only computer). Now I'm borrowing a google chrome laptop that only browses the interwebs. So it's kind of a moot point I guess."

I do miss the server when it was fun though, I had a good time playing with the people that I did.

Emma Watson is smokin' hot.

Avon remembered for coming here solo, getting to 40+ and posting many kills on his ranger while every other melee was in screamy tears.

[Tr0llb0rn]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Avon remembered for coming here solo, getting to 40+ and posting many kills on his ranger while every other melee was in screamy tears.

so true

solo ranger gets to 40+ np

vile and others get gear and PL and do not break 21 and /cry


xp not the problem, player motivation and a lack of appreciation for true classsic red EQ is

[bamzal]

never got my email what did i do wrong

[Kable]

I would play but since I'm a normal human being with a girlfriend, job and somewhat if a life, I can't commit the time, nor can most people who come to play here. Not really a stereotype, more or less fact, most people that spent countless hours playing here (not your casual players) are still losers living at home with mom and dad in their 20's with obviously no jobs and lives.

Less timesinks on a pvp server makes it better for the casual player. It does not have to be ez mode, but not many people want to commit 30 days of their life to get to 50 on a melee or camp 30 min spawns for needed loots, when they just want to pvp. Once you lost the interest of your casual players from timesinks, the server fell on its face..

[Vile]

Originally Posted by Tr0llb0rn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so true

solo ranger gets to 40+ np

vile and others get gear and PL and do not break 21 and /cry


xp not the problem, player motivation and a lack of appreciation for true classsic red EQ is

rofl... my char has bronze/banded armor bro. i got PL'd for maybe a couple of hours... read kable's post above, i am not the only one in this situation.

i have a life, a full time job, a girl friend, and i care about staying in shape unlike most of you fat nerd fucks. thank god i didn't invest more play time into my char, the box is dead as it is.

[Vile]

if the box was booming in population and everyone loved the shitty XP that would be one thing... i'd just suck it up and continue to not play... it's not that big of a deal to me.

it's just sad because increasing XP would turn the box around... the casual player base who wants to play on a PvP server is not going to invest the time needed. it's been proven.

[hagard]

Originally Posted by Vile [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

rofl... my char has bronze/banded armor bro. i got PL'd for maybe a couple of hours... read kable's post above, i am not the only one in this situation.

i have a life, a full time job, a girl friend, and i care about staying in shape unlike most of you fat nerd fucks. thank god i didn't invest more play time into my char, the box is dead as it is.

It comes down to this, not everyone has 500+hours to grind to 50. 40hrs of work 40 hrs of school 56 hrs of sleep leaves 32 hrs of whatever time, I'd rather not waste it all grinding out xp on a box with 0population


Said that in another thread only to be replied back to by retards stating
"wut classic 2 hard 4 u"
Nothing in eq is hard but a server like this consumes far to much time.
That is the reason the server went from 600 to 15

[hagard]

Wouldnt waste my time reading harrys post

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by Vile [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i have a life, a full time job, a girl friend, and i care about staying in shape unlike most of you fat nerd fucks. thank god i didn't invest more play time into my char, the box is dead as it is.

Essentializing everyone who prefers the current exp rate as having no life is just stupid. I have a life, I go to school full time, and I'm married. It just meant that it took me several months to get to 50 because my play time was significantly reduced. There was pvp at every level until 50 and it was always entertaining for me. At lower levels it was insanely difficult because Bards get their first useful offensive spell in pvp at level 12. But that was part of the challenge, having to adapt to not having certain spells I'd learned to depend on on the blue server and on other red servers at higher levels. This wasn't a server where I could just hide in Qeynos and grind to level 50, avoiding pvp until I have my best spells, but instead a server where pvp was everywhere and I had to deal with it constantly. One time I was so paranoid of getting rooted mid-kite that I bribed Casey 50 plat not to do it. I had to get creative and use the only weapon I had (money) to avoid a confrontation, because I couldn't possibly beat a druid 1 on 1 and I outleveled the rest of my guildies by a lot, meaning I couldn't call upon their help. Laugh all you want, but you'll never see anything like that on other pvp servers. Even if red99 were to get closed down tomorrow I'd still remember it as the most fun I ever had on a pvp server.

That's basically my defense of classic exp/why not everyone who prefers it is a no-lifer. The main point I want to make though is that the server was still very fun even though it took me months to get to level 50, not that the exp is fine and nothing should be changed. Because honestly, I sympathize with the fact that melees are fucked on this server because of the low population and no one to group with. Granted when the population was 600+, or even 200+, melees couldn't use this excuse (and most people who were quitting because of "slow exp" were just shit at the game), but now that we're consistently in the double digits, I can't see why anyone would roll a melee here. And if you don't have the ability to roll whatever class you want, then that's even less classic than boosting exp.

If I had it my way, I'd boost exp temporarily by a lot, advertise it well beforehand so that everyone knows about it, and have the VZTZ crowd sign a contract saying that they were too dumb and unskilled to handle classic exp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.].

[Nirgon]

Mage bolts through walls - so close to perfect right

No guard faction assist at start huge problem for most people (fine for me but whatevs) - pretty big killer for the large part of the population early

Impossible lag on opening weekend- pretty big killer for the large part of the population early

Number of morons who made melees as their starting chars that really weren't that hard core of players - a murderer for most of these geniuses with big plans of being epic melee chars (we warned you)

Mage pet root / whirl spam / root / stun being ridiculous (read: non-classic and game breaking)

Melee 2h damage bonus non-classic - don't really care too damn much about this but again, against your "it's just so close to perfect" argument


PS: There's a few other things I can put down here, but it's pointless to bring some of you to the light :P.