Rules clarification

[Valiant]

[QUOTE=arsenalpow;679117]yes, we left because we didn't want to deal with the drama and rules lawyering. A GM wasn't around to babysit so we bailed. We tried working it out with TMO leadership but they had their fingers in their ears screaming "FIFTEEN ON SPAWN POINT" so there was no point.

This

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

BDA had 40+ at Jumpy, TMO walked 15 to Trak's spawn point and claimed him.

Moral of the story, if you're going to Poopsock, do it at the right spot.

[Jarnauga]

[Tue Aug 02 18:12:12 2011] Kinsawt says, 'Yea, our fraps does an entire circle, they were OOR'
[Tue Aug 02 18:12:12 2011] Zeelot says, '50 range from spawn'
[Tue Aug 02 18:12:19 2011] Zeelot says, 'I'm looking at a first person spawn point of view that amelinda sent me'
[Tue Aug 02 18:12:21 2011] Zeelot says, 'of traks spawn'
[Tue Aug 02 18:12:24 2011] Zeelot says, 'and we were fuckin close'
[Tue Aug 02 18:12:28 2011] Kinsawt says, 'You were out of range'
[Tue Aug 02 18:12:34 2011] Kinsawt says, 'Maybe close, but out of range'

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[Maze513]

Maybe close, but out of range

where is the ole mem for dis?

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Jarnauga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Tue Aug 02 18:12:12 2011] Kinsawt says, 'Yea, our fraps does an entire circle, they were OOR'
[Tue Aug 02 18:12:12 2011] Zeelot says, '50 range from spawn'
[Tue Aug 02 18:12:19 2011] Zeelot says, 'I'm looking at a first person spawn point of view that amelinda sent me'
[Tue Aug 02 18:12:21 2011] Zeelot says, 'of traks spawn'
[Tue Aug 02 18:12:24 2011] Zeelot says, 'and we were fuckin close'
[Tue Aug 02 18:12:28 2011] Kinsawt says, 'You were out of range'
[Tue Aug 02 18:12:34 2011] Kinsawt says, 'Maybe close, but out of range'

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So this dumdum knows how this all goes down. Least one of you dumdums can remember server history.

[Jarnauga]

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Thanks Eccezan for the pic

[Barkingturtle]

I think the real of the story is: don't molest your kids, because they will grow up to be molesters, too.

[Shiftin]

Originally Posted by Nietche [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Amazing how long it took for BDA leadership to give this option a whirl after months of asking you and your fellow officers to stop the blind hate toward TMO. I don't buy for a minute that you are interested in "trying" to make diplomacy with TMO, and no one else should either. TMO is the nicest guild on the server. Anyone who has spent time with them in game has to agree. The propaganda needs to stop.

Yes, they're definitely not the guild that pioneered:

Laying FD under trak and popping up to claim FTE AND running in folks DA idols when they didn't have the people to kill it, forcing IB to run out of the lair or finish our kill and hand them the loot (multiple times).

Running in and spamming aggro spells / clickies to pull aggro on trak to give him life back through lifetaps (multiple times).

AEing CCd trains when VS was being pulled to zone to break the CC and cause a massive wipe of both IB and half of KC.

Stealing triggered mobs in sky by talking Taken into acting as a buffer, then rushing quest pieces up to sky so people could turn in quests before GMs could re-distribute loot.

Memblurring dragons to reset FTE logs (first faydedar, then talendor).

No wait, all of those things were TMO, and almost all were Zeelot personally, before anyone from any other guild sunk to that level of utter nonsense rules lawyering.

You are being fantastically ignorant of TMO and Zeelot's history, but there are more than a few reasons people hate TMO. IB was never sterling, but the massive leaps forward in douchebaggery could always be traced directly to Zeelot.

Now quick, go back to debating trakanon's aggro range. That doesn't make you look horrible at all. At least you're not breaking your backs to poopsock mobs you don't need to kill anymore like you acted outraged at IB for doing for 1.5 years.

[Asher]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, nothing in the rules states that a guild must maintain the 15 on spawn if another guild decides to give up and not contend/force the guild to maintain it.

Basically, if you want to force TMO to keep 15, stay there. If you don't want it as bad as they do, you can give up your challenge and in turn they can as well.

It's always been like this, as someone from VD (OP) should know. I imagine the only reason it's brought up is because (as per the normal for VD) something didn't go their way and they get mad/hyped about it and want to rules lawyer a GM.

GJ btw, I am sure this will work wonders for your wanted agreement.

Gratz more TMO alts on BPs!

Asher

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Shiftin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Now quick, go back to debating trakanon's aggro range. That doesn't make you look horrible at all. At least you're not breaking your backs to poopsock mobs you don't need to kill anymore like you acted outraged at IB for doing for 1.5 years.

Go back to aggroing Trakanon's range? I don't have to, IB did it for me.