Rules clarification

[Cochonou]

Originally Posted by Tiggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because VDA has not earned the right to get free mobs. Start taking mobs from tmo for a couple months and sure

Can a GM suspend TMO from raiding for a couple months so that it happens ?

[Danyelle]

Funny part is...

Most of this community despises anything modern-EQ. With a rather ridiculous seething hatred. Instancing falls under this category. Yet...I'd like to introduce you to reason number 1 as to why instancing was put in-game in the first place. This thread...

Sony didn't want to put up with this. So they took the easy way out, by putting each guild in "their own little corner" like children. What makes you think something that was stupid 13 years ago is intelligent now? Wonder how many more years it's gonna take before guilds on EQ can reach a consensus for still competing with each other, FAIRLY, without bitching endlessly.

[PhuckTMO]

Wah wah wah we were picked on back in the day so we gotta do it to everyone else...wah wah wah. Autotune have you ever actually seen a pussy? I mean besides the one inbetween your legs? Who the fuck trolls forums at 530 in the am and voices opinions about a game they dont play anymore. FUCKING LOSER

TMO is the most retarded guild ive ever had the displeasure of knowing in all my EQ years. Go fuck a girl or something u fucking pathetic, poopsocking, rules lawyering bunch of faggots. I can't Imagine what its like on a friday night to look forward to playing EQ and griefing other guilds instead of...*gasp* going out and living life. Fuckin sorry sack of pathetic nobodys who play the "we got bullied so now we must bully everyone else" card.

According to all of your guys' twisted, and, quite frankly, retarded logic it seems the ONLY rational solution is to "take what you want" by hmmm.....leapfrogging on inny and training 2 days after your suspension....then trying to be clever and using a rule u fucktards were so adamantly against...makes sense. Go get laid or fuck your wife ( if you could manage the impossible feat of finding someone to be with you sorry sacks of worthless flesh...)

As a matter of fact, go fuck yourselves cause its the
only way any of you faggots will get laid.....

PEACE

[Chloroform]

U mad bro?

[Jarnauga]

Originally Posted by Tiggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because VDA has not earned the right to get free mobs. Start taking mobs from tmo for a couple months and sure

Like Enraptured ..?

[finalgrunt]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

but keeping 40 logged in to poopsock and try to force a cockblock on another guild isn't lame?

Tell me how BDA wanted TMO to react to having 40 poopsock just outside Trakanon's aggro radius?

I see.
1) use 15man rule (was used)
2) log 40 in with BDA and play an inching game
3) give BDA all rights on Trak because they are poopsocking and may lead to an FTE dispute (GM involvement)

If you see another, chime in on it.

So you had few solutions, and you picked the least classic / least competitive / worst community decision wise. Your choice, but don't make sound as if BDA forced you to pick this one. I thought after all the competition claims, TMO would go for the 2nd one.

I mean, what do you have to gain yourself to come here and contradict yourself from when you were writing this:

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

nope, just know people in TR that I actually do like still.


Here, let me give you my deepest regards for you not understanding.


Again, please tell me why it took you days to speak up about having " first 15 on spawn " I don't think any of you hit on this yet.

Did TMO killing trak hurt your "life" that bad. Sad, just sad.


P.S. None really cares you deleted the cleric BP, infact, none cares that you were awarded it (we will get more). What pisses me off is that you guys would resort to childish bullshit and search for loop-holes to stay relevant. Fucking sad you consider yourselves "competition".

I know it's RnF, but I didn't get to read the topic when it was still in the civilized parts of the forums, and there is still matter to be discussed.

[Relapse1]

Pretty nice 2 have guilds here respect first in zone with a force and just leave. Eqmac ftw?

[Gwence]

trak should be agro'ing people if they are in LoS.. anywhere in the lair. Even at the buff ledge.

Tola spot is easily in agro range (assuming it's coded correctly). Obviously should've been BDA's mob.. should suspend tmo for breaking rules again.

Oh ya trak gates too, and takes about 30 minutes to reset if agro'd

oh ya all the vp dragons gate too


p99 = ezmode

[Tanthallas]

Originally Posted by Jarnauga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Like Enraptured ..?

You mean < The Prostitutes of The Mystical Order>?

[KentalCowtipper]

Originally Posted by Gwence [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

trak should be agro'ing people if they are in LoS.. anywhere in the lair. Even at the buff ledge.

Tola spot is easily in agro range (assuming it's coded correctly). Obviously should've been BDA's mob.. should suspend tmo for breaking rules again.

Oh ya trak gates too, and takes about 30 minutes to reset if agro'd

oh ya all the vp dragons gate too


p99 = ezmode

This may be the funniest post yet so far.
Repeat after me - I know its hard to understand - Tola's spot is NOT easily within agro range.
That is why BDA was poopsocking there. They wanted to be as close as possible WITHOUT being in agro range.

It is coded correctly - ask one of your TR/IB butt buddies to check out the agro range on eqmac. I did on EZ, THF and PEQ and guess what - Tola's spot it out agro range on all of them.

Its pretty simple. BDA was poopsocking hard with 40 people late into the window. Not a single person actually believes they were there just to "farm juggs for spells and maybe get lucky with trak" - with 9 hours left in the window....riiiight.
Instead of manning up and poopsocking correctly - ON Trak's spawn spot - they decided to play it safe and keep their force outside of agro range.

So TMO moved a force inside of agro range - Within the letter of the law to a T. We broke no rules and as Zeelot told BDA leadership we have fraps and SS's to prove it.

Next time, BDA, if you have more people there first and you want to play the poopsock game - man the fuck up and sit on Trak's spawn. If you're going to try to play the poopsock game do it right. Instead they wanted their cake and to be able to eat it too - they wanted to be able to poopsock but not have to be ready go to the second he engaged (thus the out of agro range sock site).

How many of those 40+ BDA were afk watching TV? Reading a Book? Playing Another Game? All waiting for a batphone to go off so they could run over to their PC - because they were nice and safely parked outside of Trak's agro radius? All it takes is 6 (well for BDA maybe 12) to ensure that Juggs/Tola stays clear. The rest can AFK.

How is that any better than camping people out at a target? Its not. Its worse. Its like camping out at the target - but your character still logged in. Nice little 1-2 min jump on people who are actually logged out at a mob.

Moral of the story - if you want to poopsock do it right. Wanting to be able to poopsock and at the same time have the liberty to not be forced into a instant engage just doesn't cut it.

If you're going to sock you gotta be ready for instant engages. There are many Traks I remember we socked against TR/IB where we had 15-20 and we engaged - while more people were logging on to the batphone that was sent out. Some of those Traks we won. Others we wiped and lost - but thats the price you have to pay when you want to poopsock and are forced to do it correctly.

Sorry you want the world handed to you on a platter but you can't poopsock a mob outside of his agro range. The rules are the rules; if they get changed thats up to the staff. I know as a guild TMO will continue to abide by all server rules and not break a single one. With the hard-on some have for us (like Gwence - OMG BAN THEM.. other people who may be server staff.....)- don'tcha think we'll be frapsing damn near everything from now on? =)

Flippie
Kental