What EQ PvP is about

[mitic]

item loot never worked well. meles are pretty much screwed and caster pk other players nakid. besides that, one lag spike during a fight makes u lose an item u camped for endless hours. there was a reason why there hasn't been another server with item loot after RZ.

besides that, numbers tripped on daxums vztz server 3-4 years ago the moment item loot was taken out.

I know that nilbog wanted to have item loot even before red was launched but then pop wouldn't be 50 but more like 0 right now.

[Tr0llb0rn]

also re: item loot

remember going LD with your trak BP on?

yeah

no thanks.

[Juugox2]

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[SearyxTZ]

Originally Posted by Tr0llb0rn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

also re: item loot

remember going LD with your trak BP on?

yeah

no thanks.

most of us aren't using AOL dial-up anymore in 2012 bro

[Nizzarr]

not pleased with the probably upcoming yellow text, the trolls want item loot now.

[Salem Orchid]

XP loss is nice in pvp, I dig it. Medium Risk High Reward, pretty much a good time.

[SearyxTZ]

I'm not in the item loot camp btw.

I prefer it and think it owns, but every time we did it on VZTZ, the population dropped because it was too hardcore risk/reward for some people.


Dullah: I agree EQ is a PvE game first. In fact it was a PvE game where they basically just flipped the PvP switch and it happened to work really damn well. Of course almost every MMO since then has ignored that awesomeness in favor of a clean PvE/PvP split and leaning heavily on instancing (ie: death to world pvp), but that's another conversation.

You should really acknowledge that the "counterstrike with elves" players are a sizable contingent (probably the larger one) of the red population. Red servers need both the PvE-first people and the PvP-first people. The classic red servers accommodated both crowds, believe it or not.

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by SearyxTZ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You should really acknowledge that the "counterstrike with elves" players are a sizable contingent (probably the larger one) of the red population. Red servers need both the PvE-first people and the PvP-first people. The classic red servers accommodated both crowds, believe it or not.

And right now theres no balance between those 2, its all tilted toward heavy pvp xp loss for poopsock camp control. The thing is you could still control camps with less harsh xp loss, youd just have to work at it a bit.

[Akim]

Originally Posted by Lucky [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yea I read it, you are blue as fuck

I'm hard as fuck.
I think these people are mad.

[SearyxTZ]

Pvp exp loss is one of those things that nobody wanted in the first place and that all I ever see on the forums is calling for it to be removed. Nildog should absolutely ditch that and I'm sure no tears would be shed.


It's a nonsensical no-reward feature that actually lends to griefing, discourages pvp, and forces more grinding.

If someone put up a poll on it I bet it would landslide at something like 90/10 to just remove it.