ASOIAF / Game of Thrones (SPOILERS INSIDE)

[Rain1]

Yep read everything that applies to Tavi. Liked the books very much, but I have never read any of the Dresden series...might have to check that out. I got SUPER disappointed recently because my library didn't have the 3rd and final book of the Auqasilva Trilogy. The 1st book is very well done, and the 2nd did not disappoint me either. But holy fuck i need closure lol!

[citizen1080]

Dresden files def worth looking into..i just burned through all 14 books back to back. Series has got to be very good to keep my attention that long.

[Sirken]

season finale tonght!

will we see RobbWind? will they toss Cat out the window?

more importantly, i think tonight is the night we see the first battle at the wall. you know, the one where the red head gets it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Lojik]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

season finale tonght!

will we see RobbWind? will they toss Cat out the window?

more importantly, i think tonight is the night we see the first battle at the wall. you know, the one where the red head gets it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Will we meet coldhands?

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Lojik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Will we meet coldhands?

i have no idea at this point. i thought we would see coldhands already since Bran is nearly at the god damned wall already. HOPEFULLY they dont cut coldhands out of the show, which they could very well do.

all he really does is guide Sam to the wall, and guide Bran to Brynden Rivers (aka bloodraven, aka 3eyedcrow)

i know ALOT of people think Coldhands is Benjen, and that would make it impossible to cut Coldhands from the show. BUT, Coldhands CANNOT be Benjen, because Benjen has not nearly been dead long enough.

Coldhands seems to be a brother of the Night's Watch: he wears black and calls Samwell Tarly "brother." Therefore the dominant theory is that Coldhands is a dead or missing brother of the Night's Watch. Possibilities include:

Benjen Stark, who disappeared beyond the Wall during a ranging
Lord Commander Brynden "Bloodraven" Rivers
Ser Waymar Royce, who was killed by Others
Will, who was killed by Waymar Royce
The Night's King, who was a known consort of the Others

Evidence Against

Brynden the Bloodraven is very likely to be the Three-eyed crow, and so could not also be Coldhands.

The Night's King was said to be deposed, his name "wiped from the memory of man," which sounds like he was thoroughly destroyed and likely to have been burned if it was known he was consorting with the Others.

Leaf, the child of the forest Bran meets at the cave of the Last Greenseer, says of Coldhands: "They killed him long ago." Will, Waymar Royce and Benjen Stark died/went missing only two years prior, a small amount of time for someone over 200 years old.

[Lojik]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i have no idea at this point. i thought we would see coldhands already since Bran is nearly at the god damned wall already. HOPEFULLY they dont cut coldhands out of the show, which they could very well do.

all he really does is guide Sam to the wall, and guide Bran to Brynden Rivers (aka bloodraven, aka 3eyedcrow)

i know ALOT of people think Coldhands is Benjen, and that would make it impossible to cut Coldhands from the show. BUT, Coldhands CANNOT be Benjen, because Benjen has not nearly been dead long enough.

I think there are equal chances that Benjen:
is dead,we won't find out what happened
is dead, we find out what happened
is alive
is alive, but will die in the prologue of a future novel.

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Lojik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think there are equal chances that Benjen:
is dead,we won't find out what happened
is dead, we find out what happened
is alive
is alive, but will die in the prologue of a future novel.

supposedly book 6 goes further north than we have ever been before. i suspect we will find out what happened to him in book 6, be it him dead or alive

[Sirken]

personally, i think Coldhands = the Night's King

The Night's King is a legendary Lord Commander of the Night's Watch, who lived during the Age of Heroes.

History

According to legend, the Night's King lived during the Age of Heroes, not long after the Wall was complete. He was a fearless warrior, who was named the thirteenth Lord Commander of the Night's Watch. Later he fell in love with a woman "with skin as white as the moon and eyes like blue stars", he chased her and loved her though "her skin was cold as ice", and when he gave his seed to her he gave his soul as well. (Her description matches that of the Others.)

He brought her back to the Nightfort and after the unholy union, he declared himself king and her his queen, and ruled the Nightfort as his own castle for thirteen years. During the dark years of his reign, horrific atrocities were committed, of which tales are still told in the North. It was not until his own brother, the King in the North, and Joramun, the King-Beyond-the-Wall, joined forces that the Night's King was brought down and the Night's Watch freed. After his fall, when it was discovered that he had been sacrificing to the Others (possibly in similar way to Craster), all records of him were destroyed and his very name was forbidden. It is likely this led the lords of the North to forbid the Night's Watch to construct walls at their keeps, ensuring the keeps would always be accessible from the south.

Recent History

While on his way north, Bran Stark recalls stories told to the Stark children of the Night's King and the Nightfort by Old Nan, servant in Winterfell. She said some people believe the Night's King was a Bolton, a Magnar out of Skagos, an Umber, a Flint, a Norrey, or a Woodfoot, who ruled Bear Island before the ironmen came. However, she identifies the Night's King as a Stark of Winterfell and brother to the King of the North and hints his name too was Bran.

[Hasbinbad]

p sure benjen and cold hands part of A League of Extraordinary Nightswatchgentlemen

[Hasbinbad]

running around in a steampunked airship / submarine