2012 Presidential Debates - Page 15

orsk · #**141** 10-04-2012, 03:15 PM

Obama cannot run on his record. Bill Clinton said Obama had it much worse than him when he first got elected, so that leaves me wondering why Obama clearly promised he would turn things around in 3 year. So basically what im to understand is that America simply needs 4 more years now because the problem was much worse than he knew. Tough break buddy, your supposed to be a leader own up to it be a man and step down. Now that everyone is disappointed with his record for the past 4 years its turned into, but but but it would be worse if Obama had not implemented the things he did. His lackluster performance last night was just the death rattle of his term.

Thulack · #**142** 10-04-2012, 03:41 PM

Really it doesnt matter what happens. Obama wins and we are in the shitter in 4 years and Rep's say "told you he couldn't do it". Romney wins and we are in the shitter in 4 years and the Dem's will say"told you he couldn't do it".

Woodcon Valor · #**143** 10-04-2012, 03:44 PM

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Really, 75%?
I did not know that

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dredge · #**144** 10-04-2012, 04:41 PM

Lexical · #**145** 10-04-2012, 04:47 PM

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shut the fuck up. engaging conversation? do you think politics involve brain cells or intelligent conversation? it's a couple of jackasses lying in front of a camera.

Accurate! Politics: the age old game of who can produce the most convincing bullshit [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gustoo · #**146** 10-04-2012, 05:43 PM

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Really it doesnt matter what happens. Obama wins and we are in the shitter in 4 years and Rep's say "told you he couldn't do it". Romney wins and we are in the shitter in 4 years and the Dem's will say"told you he couldn't do it".

qft

Hitchens · #**147** 10-04-2012, 05:48 PM

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I know a lot of folks would realize that there are other choices like the Libertarian and Green Parties, but most Americans prefer to keep things simple and do as told by the media or what their high school government teacher told them to do.

The Libertarian Party is a clusterfuck of in-fighting, backstabbing, manipulation, craziness and rules lawyering. Basically take everything wrong with the two main parties and then throw in steroids.

Yardcore · #**148** 10-04-2012, 06:03 PM

Even though, I think you do have a point. In my opinion, I think America does have a place for another party or two.

What you mentioned is also happening in Democrat and Republican. Do you think Democrat, and Republican do not have an in-fighting? It's even worst in the Republican party. They only banded together because they don't have a choice.

Its kind of silly for people to only have a choice between Left or Right, 2 options of stupidity are forcing me to vote for the lesser evil.

Hitchens · #**149** 10-04-2012, 08:15 PM

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Even though, I think you do have a point. In my opinion, I think America does have a place for another party or two.

What you mentioned is also happening in Democrat and Republican. Do you think Democrat, and Republican do not have an in-fighting? It's even worst in the Republican party. They only banded together because they don't have a choice.

Its kind of silly for people to only have a choice between Left or Right, 2 options of stupidity are forcing me to vote for the lesser evil.

Of course all the things I listed that were problems in the LP exist in both mainstream parties. The difference is that the two mainstream parties are not completely paralyzed by it and unable to get members elected due to it. With the Internet, it becomes a bit harder to maintain the narrative that the only reason the LP yields such abysmal numbers is due to MSM shunning. The problem goes much deeper.

By all means, try to change it. I hope you have more luck than those who came before you. No sarcasm intended whatsoever.

Lazortag · #**150** 10-06-2012, 01:49 AM

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LOL. Romney never had a chance to win anyways.

Any black person who votes will be voting for Obama, just like in 08. They will literally go to vote for the 1st or 2nd time ever just cuz they'll be voting for another black man.

This of course is HUGELY advantageous to Obama, as he need not appeal specifically to the "minorities" because, again, they're all voting for him anyways.

This means he need tailor his lies only to everyone else, whilst Romney must lie to all the same people as Obama, AND all the racial minorities who probably already consider him to be a white devil.

Most democratic candidates get at least 90% of the black vote, so the fact that Obama got 96% of the black vote has less to do with the colour of his skin than it does his political beliefs. It seems from your post that you're saying they overwhelmingly voted for him just because he's also black, which isn't really supported by any data. Similarly, republican candidates tend to get more of the white vote, so it would be disingenuous for me to say that white people are only voting for Romney because they're just "voting for another white man".