Why are there so many asshats on the server?

[gnomishfirework]

Originally Posted by President [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd say the community here is very good, and I've been around to witness a lot of it. I've probably given away 5-8k worth of items and money to newbies, but I always find it funny when I go to give a newbie 30p, and he goes "someone else just gave me 50p, I'm good, find another newbie to give it to." I constantly talk to low levels who have had some higher level help them out for free, often just by showing up and handing things out.

The majority of the bad community here comes from so many players with a very good knowledge of the game all wanting to do end game stuff, and kicking each other in the nuts to get what they want. I bet you before Kunark comes out we have over 6 guilds with the player base to kill any boss in the game, but probably only a couple with the ability to *camp* or *race* for a mob. I've always tried to be friends with everyone in every guild, and I find it astonishing the hatred I see between guilds.

Yea. I don't expect to kill naggy or vox on this server. I dont intend to not level once kunark comes out and I work full-time and don't intend to join a hardcore raiding guild. Its cool. I've killed them before. I killed them when they were a challenge before. So Im ok with it. I do want my epic. I do want to kill bosses in Kunark and Velious and in the Planes. So, hopefully I can get to do that. I plan to stick around till velious, so Im pretty confident it will happen. I am in no rush.

[Taxi]

Originally Posted by gnomishfirework [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Darkfall, had a great community if you weren't a carebear. It was a full loot sandbox pvp game. If you expected everyone to be nice and kind, you are a fool. If you expected enemies around every corner and didn't cry after getting ganked, you could meet a lot of cool people.

Its not about being nice and kind, its about being stupid. Anytime you criticized some concept in the game, the "go back to wow" card was played. I dont know when you played but i beta tested it from february 2009 to may 2009 and it was just stupid.

For example in beta, i was told i was a carebear because i wanted to put a stop to people deleting their shit while you were running after them on a mount. Say the guy was running out of stamina and he knew he was gonna die, then he could just delete everything that was on him before i killed him to deny me any loot. I was told to go back to wow and that i was a carebear for suggesting to put a timer on deleting. The rationale being that i wanted to be "entitled" to some loot, hence a carebear and i should go back to WoW. A bit like you did.

[Taxi]

Originally Posted by Alawen Everywhere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your post makes me want to check out Eve. Why'd you quit?

I didnt, im still playing. Its a bit harsh to be starting now, to be frank, its gonna take you a couple of months just to start pvping. PVE is boring after a while, if you do start playing, join one of those "academy" type corporations. The best part about Eve is that i can be playing EQ emu and my skills are still going up in Eve.

[Alawen Everywhere]

Perhaps I'll check out Eve in the weeks ahead, thanks for the feedback.

For a free server, I think P99 has a surprisingly pleasant player base. There are certainly conflicts over camps and such as the available content gets more crowded, but I can't think of many dedicated misanthropes on the server and fewer still since global ooc was disabled. Everyone has bad days. It's not so hard to send someone a tell the next day and apologize for being a jerk.

[Omnimorph]

I've tried apologising for being a jerk before... the guy refused to accept my apology and threatened to /ignore me... damn jerk!

[Leokaiser]

My experiences with other players in game have been positive in all but a select few cases. Most people here seem to be both helpful and generous, as was my experience when I played EQ back in the day.

The problem is this forum. I noticed it straight away, and eveyone of those aforementioned nice people I've talked to about it in game are in agreement; many of the more vocal posters here do not reprsent the quality of the players in game. To me this is quite sad, as for many people this forum will be their entry point to the server, and I'd be willing to hazzard a guess that some have come and been put off the idea of playing here - I personally started installing as soon as I heard about p1999, but coming here first might have given me pause for thought (though maybe not!).

Cyrano's suggestion of not coming to R&F is probably a good one for those of a more sensative nature, but the reality is that all the vitriolic bile is not contained to this dedicated subforum; the hatred and derision seep out into other parts of the forum where it's not really appropriate if you ask me. People often comment how few players 'bother' to check these forums, but I do not see why this is surprising if the majority of players in game are nice, while the (vocal) majority on these forums are not.

I honestly feel that the server as a whole would benefit from containing the flames and harsh mannerisms to this subforum; let the keyboard warriors battle it out here, but make the other forums a place where discussion doesn't have to happen on a level lower than that of WoW General Forum!

However, I expect my opinion, laid out rationally and in a neutral tone, will be labled as that of a whiney bitch and told I should just stop coming to the one place where discussion on the server as a whole can take place. C'est la vie.

[Beldhar Stormstalker]

Originally Posted by Taxi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I didnt, im still playing. Its a bit harsh to be starting now, to be frank, its gonna take you a couple of months just to start pvping. PVE is boring after a while, if you do start playing, join one of those "academy" type corporations. The best part about Eve is that i can be playing EQ emu and my skills are still going up in Eve.

Hey Taxi, out of curiosity... since you said you're still playing, what corporation/alliance are you part of?

PS: Please don't say Goons! =P

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[Taxi]

Originally Posted by Beldhar Stormstalker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hey Taxi, out of curiosity... since you said you're still playing, what corporation/alliance are you part of?

PS: Please don't say Goons! =P

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I was on the providence side of the providence war this winter, the leader our alliance made a stupid move and dropped sovereignty of our systems while we were in the middle of an invasion and tripleA just came and took over. I was in Aegis Militia then.

We then moved to Primary space, but leader made yet another bad move, so i left the corporation (Hammer of Light) and moved to High sec for now to plan ahead, but i dont really play, i just skill up lol. Im not sure im going to play for long actually, I just play it cuz its one of the only MMOs i enjoy out there beside this EQemu.

Im basically waiting for the CCP vampire MMO [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[gnomishfirework]

Originally Posted by Taxi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its not about being nice and kind, its about being stupid. Anytime you criticized some concept in the game, the "go back to wow" card was played. I dont know when you played but i beta tested it from february 2009 to may 2009 and it was just stupid.

Yea, the forums were fucking insane when it came to that, but it was only the same 5 people.

In game the only douches were the guys who clan dec'd New. Everyone esle was really nice.

I was complimented on my playstyle by people I tried to gank and such. I got chased once by three people who tried desperately to kill me until I finally lost them around some hills. I ended up chatting with the one guy a few times I logged in after that. People were friendly in game. IT was a pvp game though, so people will kill you on site. Most were dicks about it. Except the hackers too.

STupid hackers.

[Aarone]

Originally Posted by Omnimorph [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've tried apologising for being a jerk before... the guy refused to accept my apology and threatened to /ignore me... damn jerk!

Talking to yourself again? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]