And I raaaaaan, I raaaan so far awaaaayyyy

[doraf]

You guys should never let Altari and I post in the same threads. We are the masters of derail.

What if we did some type of random roll between the guilds. The winning guild stays and fights the mob w/o interruption assuming they can kill within a reasonable time. The other guild looks for something else. There is no more summoning a GM into every single raid encounter and loot stays on the guild that killed it.

[Harazzer]

Originally Posted by Ephi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not at all what I'm saying.

Every situation is judged by its unique circumstances. Hence the reason FE was awarded a VS kill even though they did not technically get FTE in the encounter log.

We do what we can to eliminate all the different variables that could merit a kill to someone who perhaps does not deserve it. But we also make mistakes from time to time. I saw no attempt by FE to actually kill CT. In a 34 second fight, not one other person outside of Scorchin got onto the aggro list.

I made the best call I could, but like I said in fear, if anyone has evidence that speaks against my ruling, Sirken and I would both be happy to review it. You know where to find us.

And if some think I favor one guild or another, you are sorely mistaken. I really have no dog in this fight. Just a volunteer trying to keep the playing grounds as fair as possible. Put another way: I could give a shit about guild XYZ over guild ABC.

VS was an entirely different situation. Nothing about that applies here.

In this situation we had a raid force, I got FTE, then TMO Jumped on the mob and killed it. When can you say FTE snipe is any different than initiating a pull and what they did is any different from them KSing it? FTE is supposed to take all of the GM discretion out of a given situation, make it so it is not a call based on favoritism but one of hard evidence. Every other time the FTE situation has come up its "soandso got fte, congrats guild of soandso!" but this time we are all about "the Spirit of FTE" whatever the fuck that is.

And yea, you and every GM in history is an unbiased bastion of blind justice. Never heard that before either.

I don't care about the mob, or the loot which was shitty as i understand it... What i care about is the idea that the precedents and rules of the server can be whimsically overturned by a new GM that can clearly be influenced by cryspam of TMO.

[hatelore]

That sounds great, until you realize your raid force was in the zone first, and then the slackers who got there after you win the roll.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dude 0 damage from an FE member on the mob? Are you trying to convince us you planned to engage CT?

right, but if you are unsure of FTE you are not supposed to engage the mob. this will be fixed when fte shout comes in, just a poor call against precedent for now, though each GM has interpreted the raid rules at their own discretion so far.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Harazzer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

VS was an entirely different situation. Nothing about that applies here.

In this situation we had a raid force, I got FTE, then TMO Jumped on the mob and killed it. When can you say FTE snipe is any different than initiating a pull and what they did is any different from them KSing it? FTE is supposed to take all of the GM discretion out of a given situation, make it so it is not a call based on favoritism but one of hard evidence. Every other time the FTE situation has come up its "soandso got fte, congrats guild of soandso!" but this time we are all about "the Spirit of FTE" whatever the fuck that is.

And yea, you and every GM in history is an unbiased bastion of blind justice. Never heard that before either.

I don't care about the mob, or the loot which was shitty as i understand it... What i care about is the idea that the precedents and rules of the server can be whimsically overturned by a new GM that can clearly be influenced by cryspam of TMO.

Reread his last post. Drui got FTE =)

[Tasslehofp99]

Damn I had high hopes for this thread.

[Harazzer]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Reread his last post. Drui got FTE =)

Yea you said that before, and in classic alarti fashion I couldn't tell if you were trolling or just that fucking retarded. Apparently its the latter. Clearly he was hit by the zonewide random dt since my name was first on the encounter log. Otherwise it he would have been on the aggro list.

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Reread his last post. Drui got FTE =)

Then that directly contradicts what was originally stated, as shown in the screenshot posted in the original post of this thread.

[Rovas]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Damn I had high hopes for this thread.

Never have hopes or feelings in RnF, you will only end up hurting yourself.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Then that directly contradicts what was originally stated, as shown in the screenshot posted in the original post of this thread.

Just like sending one man in to FTE while your guild does nothing contradicts a kill attempt.