Tumpy Tonic

[magic]

Originally Posted by Torrinn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It should be obvious to anyone from the smartest Erudite to the stupidest Ogre that this was an exploit. Using turn ins to level that quickly cannot be working as intended and anyone with half a brain should know this whether they are new to EQ or not. They should say to themselves "Hmmm I just gained 10 levels in 10 minutes, I wonder if this is legit?" and if they don't they deserve to be whacked hard with the banstick.

You're the worst kind of troll for the simple fact that you have no clue what you are talking about. Yes, Kiola Nuts should not of been stackable. That does not change the fact that a wizard or druid would be able to bind there, buy bags full of nuts, port near a town, make the tonics, bank, repeat. It was possible in classic to make 20 stacks of tonics to fill up 8 10-slot bags in a few hours. Those people would then sit on the docks in EFP or in the EC tunnel and auction WTS Stacks of Tumpy Tonics.

Sorry you didn't play classic. Use more big words in an attempt to make my post seem irrelevant.

[Torrinn]

Originally Posted by magic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're the worst kind of troll for the simple fact that you have no clue what you are talking about. Yes, Kiola Nuts should not of been stackable. That does not change the fact that a wizard or druid would be able to bind there, buy bags full of nuts, port near a town, make the tonics, bank, repeat. It was possible in classic to make 20 stacks of tonics to fill up 8 10-slot bags in a few hours. Those people would then sit on the docks in EFP or in the EC tunnel and auction WTS Stacks of Tumpy Tonics.

Sorry you didn't play classic. Use more big words in an attempt to make my post seem irrelevant.

That may be so, but being able to carry 1600 of them at a time makes your point irrelevant as there is no need to buy the tonics from anybody so less money is required to do the quest. If you WERE around during Classic, you yourself should know that this was not working as intended due to the stacking issue and the translocators reducing travel time, so how can you possibly say it was OK?

And, ONLY a troll would try to defend this EXPLOIT as being legit. How many levels did YOU gain from it, BTW?

[magic]

Do you not realize the point? It was still possible to level off of in classic. I don't know how to be more straight-forward than that. I know a shaman that leveled a human monk from 1-50 in about a day, and a human SK from 1-40 immediately after. This was pre-kunark, vanilla everquest. We were both members of Eternal Wrath.

Obvious exploit is obvious.

Edit:

You just admitted to not playing classic. Your posts are now rendered inert.

[Dartagnan]

This argument would stand so long as the ability to obtain kiola nuts as non-stackable was working.

The point is that under the titanium client (from my understanding) you were able to stack these. So instead of having a max of 80 possible nuts, you could have 1600. So that's a ratio of 80:1600 or basically 1 trip back then is equivalent now to 20 trips.

Doing this quest 20 times faster is the exploit and should have been reported by people. There is no way that EQ back then would allow such a quest to be accelerated such as this and anyone coming up with the excuse that they did not know about the stackable issue should have at least reported this to the GMs to make sure that this was legit.

I mean seriously, items that we all are camping now (manastone, guise of the deceiver, etc.) were either nerfed or removed. What makes anyone honestly think that the ability to transport 1600 nuts to gain massive xp was legit. We need a little more honesty around this server and more people willing to help out in reporting bugs and correcting any errors in quests such as this one.

[Wrei]

Originally Posted by Dartagnan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This argument would stand so long as the ability to obtain kiola nuts as non-stackable was working.

The point is that under the titanium client (from my understanding) you were able to stack these. So instead of having a max of 80 possible nuts, you could have 1600. So that's a ratio of 80:1600 or basically 1 trip back then is equivalent now to 20 trips.

Doing this quest 20 times faster is the exploit and should have been reported by people. There is no way that EQ back then would allow such a quest to be accelerated such as this and anyone coming up with the excuse that they did not know about the stackable issue should have at least reported this to the GMs to make sure that this was legit.

I mean seriously, items that we all are camping now (manastone, guise of the deceiver, etc.) were either nerfed or removed. What makes anyone honestly think that the ability to transport 1600 nuts to gain massive xp was legit. We need a little more honesty around this server and more people willing to help out in reporting bugs and correcting any errors in quests such as this one.

I agree with everything your saying. I was in the wrong not to report the stacking issue. My only defense was that the quest imo trivializes in the high 20's, even with the stackable nuts the XP gain is so minimal at that point that I just cannot fathom someone crazy enough to try doing it post 30. So that's why I kinda just ignored it and moved on from it, but if people have infinite plat and the retarded patience to click 9 million times to somehow hit 50 doing ONLY tonics then yea i can see why it's being a big fuss.

Whirl was stupid, everyone benefited from it xp'ing, it got nerfed life goes on. Should be the same here nerf it and move on.

[magic]

I get what you're saying. The post I made before though outlined exactly how this quest was done in classic. Classes capable of porting would spend like 5-6 hours a day making 8 bags of tonics and then sell them for an insane amount of money. I know because I used to sell them. The quest was nerfed around the Kunark era in terms of the amount of exp it rewarded. It was still very, very, very possible to go from 1-50 in classic in a few days if you had enough money or items to trade people that wasted their time making Tonics.

I personally don't give a shit. Why do any of you care about people leveling? Why don't you care about people getting items from fear that are ALREADY GETTING REMOVED? Why don't you care about people having items that aren't EVER going to be obtainable for you? Honestly this all Tumpy Tonic crying seems like a diversion for the real problems on the server...

[Reiker]

Why would you even care about people obtaining items that are eventually being removed? If you didn't get the "limited time" items before they're gone, you didn't try hard enough, and hence you don't deserve them. Sounds harsh but, that's EverQuest.

Also, the "items" removed from Fear is the Cryosilk Robe. That's it. You're a magician. You know the Apothic Robe will drop in droves in Hate. You know that robe is better than Cryosilk. It's a status item. If you were a decent player (not) and put in countless hours to be on every single IB raid then you too may have had a chance at one. But now you don't, because you chose a different avenue.

You really think that one person having one robe that'll eventually be replaced in Hate is a bigger issue than leveling 1-50 in a day?

[jawtoe]

ah, it makes sense now. Everyone's mad at people who used this quest to level because people were able to get a lot of exp AND still have a life outside the game. They figure, I gave up my social existence to get level 50 and go on raids to get rare items before they're removed from the game, and if someone else isnt willing to give the same, they shouldnt be allowed to get these items.

am i right?

[Reiker]

Giving up your social life for phat lewtz is part of Teh Game (TM), mang.

[karsten]

Originally Posted by magic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I personally don't give a shit.

-->cuz i already got my druid to level 50 on tonics LOL<--

hehehehehehehe