Rallos Zek, first server to kill the Sleeper :)

[Skitliv]

Yes, yes, great arguments. You managed to avoid addressing anything I said though.

Originally Posted by Krolo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As a comparative analogy:

Rallos Zek was the 8th grade prom of servers; the main guilds actively chaperoned and cock-blocked anyone from getting fucked on the dance floor.

Tallon Zek was the Johny Cash at Fulsome Prison; wall to wall mosh pit of the worst murdering raping necrophiliacs known, all wielding shanks ready to stab the next man in the face. It was great.

Speaking of Tallon Zek. Don't you think it's weird that once the pvp servers merged into Zek, the top TZ guild, Pandemonium, made someone from RZ (me) their main pvp assist?

Also, anyone who wanted to join Pandemonium had to duel a current member to gain entrance. Why were two people from RZ (Sendiaz and I, Monk / Ranger) the only people in PDM history to win their entrance duels? Why was I then appointed as the official person that prospective members had to duel from then on in order to join?

Seem's weird to make an 8th grader the gatekeeper to Folsom prison, if your analogy has any merit.

If you don't think being outgeared and outnumbered for years bred the nastiest pvpers of any of the combined servers, you're dead wrong. Tell me the name of someone from another server that you thought was great, and i'll show you someone that I personally sodomized with a claw hammer.

[SamwiseRed]

lol rz

[Krolo]

I just explained multiple ways RZ guilds limp-wristed pvp and your rebuttal was "Yes, I joined a Tallon Zek guild".

[Dark Team]

These arguments are always so silly. In my opinion, EQ PvP was so cool because of the level of depth it added to the game. The fact that things played out so differently on each of the PvP servers (even when comparing VZ to TZ) is evidence of the game being awesome for the sandboxiness and player-driven communities. I loved EQ PvP for the roleplaying and political intrigue, as well as the danger and excitement.

And besides, you made your experience as hardcore as you wanted, no matter which server you were on.

Rallos anti-PK: easy
Rallos PK: way hardcore

Sullon evil team: easy
Sullon good team: way hardcore

Vallon "light" team: easy
Vallon pure team: way hardcore

Tallon was different, as I remember that server being the true FFA server once all the guilds started 4-teaming early in their history. So it depended more which guild you joined than what actual team you were on. I'd say Pande was easymode, just because they always had that gear/level advantage over everyone else. Kinda like how Nihilum is red99 easymode.

RZ going vast anti majority is one of the most interesting occurrences I have ever heard of in MMO gaming. The ruleset was so hardcore that the players actually turned to hardcore policing themselves. That's pretty great imo, and I wish I had played there as well as on VZ, so I could have been a part of it.

That sort of thing is what modern MMOs are missing, and I really don't know if it's ever going to be possible to get that back, as our attitudes toward these games have changed drastically since 1999. These days everyone is a hardcore PK, and it doesn't even mean anything anymore. A true hardcore player on red99 would go against the grain and preach peace and civility in the face of overwhelming odds and neckbeards with daddy issues.

[Skitliv]

Originally Posted by Krolo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just explained multiple ways RZ guilds limp-wristed pvp and your rebuttal was "Yes, I joined a Tallon Zek guild".

I was blacklisted from RZ guilds, remember? Server merge didn't mean all the RZ guilds suddenly forgot about years of training and massacres. Hell , I was even there at their Sleeper kill with 5 other people trying to sabotage it by killing clerics and newly rez'd at the rez station.

Though truth be told, rz guilds got squashed on the merge. Maybe they did suck.
The point I'm trying to drive home here is that I'm the best pvper in the game.

[Krolo]

Originally Posted by Skitliv [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was blacklisted from RZ guilds, remember? Server merge didn't mean all the RZ guilds suddenly forgot about years of training and massacres. Hell , I was even there at their Sleeper kill with 5 other people trying to sabotage it by killing clerics and newly rez'd at the rez station.

Though truth be told, rz guilds got squashed on the merge. Maybe they did suck.
The point I'm trying to drive home here is that I'm the best pvper in the game.

Ah, I wasn't questioning your skill. If you were one of the few people that took full advantage of RZ's pvp ruleset(or lack there of), props to you.

[Nirgon]

So you levelled on a server where an item couldn't be taken in PvP? Tell me again how our server was limp wristed again.

You know people lost dragon haste on raids being ganked by people ninja logged in spots? Or people giving inside info?

(Insert Wonka)

You also claim there was raid guild hand holding. Maybe you don't know why Ozuri had to come to Rallos, I don't think you played there so I don't expect you to do anything other than think your server was clearly the best. Here's a hint, he had to put the server under martial law and forbid PvP in raid zones... obviously because what was going on was so "limp wristed".

100 vs 100 in Feerott/Fear or across Cobalt Scar/WW/DN/ToV was so weak and limp wristed let me tell you, esp with the classic EQ client.

And if this is me falling for it? Excellent trolling.

[Krolo]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

100 vs 100 in Feerott/Fear or across Cobalt Scar/WW/DN/ToV was so weak and limp wristed let me tell you, esp with the classic EQ client.

On Tallon Zek, we called this "Tuesday".

[Nirgon]

Ever had a dragon haste item taken from you in pvp bud? We called that Tuesday.

[SamwiseRed]

Tuesday on SZ meant you were able to get your corpse after a week of it being corpse camped.