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Old 03-01-2013, 04:48 PM
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Alarti should not honor the bet whether he wins or loses because that will result in RNF threads to read.
would be funny as fuck
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Old 03-01-2013, 04:48 PM
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As a bystander not involved in any way shape or form with the guilds or individuals involved in this friendly wager, I must admit that I am confused.

FE keeps posting that decisions have been made, and loot has been awarded to FE.
TMO (well mostly Alarti) keeps saying that a decision is not been made and to be patient.

Where is the proof one way or another? Can a GM or some reputable individual who has access to the petition forums please chime in and confirm whether or not the loot outcome of the dragons has been settled so that we can conclude once and for all who has won the bet or whether or not it is still being decided upon?

As fun as the shit-slinging is; without facts this is a bore. Can somebody with a shred of credibility please post some. Thank you!
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Old 03-01-2013, 04:51 PM
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would be funny as fuck
Hmm if he attempted to do this, not only would it confirm what a tool the vast majority of players think he is (see poll elsewhere on RnF), but I seriously hope that TMO would shun him in much the same way as they claim to when they discover people cheating in their guild (an issue that has also raised a question of TMO's credibility lately).

Short of that, the GM's chiming in and forcing Alarti to honor his word would also be wonderful.
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Old 03-01-2013, 04:53 PM
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Invested capital is not a debt. K = D + E - M is a basic financing equation. While I can appreciate that you were trying to make a joke, it doesn't really make any sense.
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Old 03-01-2013, 04:53 PM
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Sunra/Mithra got his shield back, you an gladly ask him. Not sure how one can prove one way or another, and i guess maybe that was alarti intentions the whole time i cannot say. Unfortunately no items are nodrop where you could post the log of them looting the item and still having the item, TMO said they would recieve loot from the kill, so i guess a screenshot of them receiving items from Sirken would prove it in their case, but will not happen, as i have stated the loot was already returned.
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Old 03-01-2013, 04:56 PM
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I am in complete agreement with this. Alarti can bloviate on some twisted rationalization for why he shouldn't pay, and Sloan and Visceral can bust an artery in sputtering rage as they generalize about TMO's complete lack of moral character.
I think it would be in both Alarti's and TMO's best interested to honor this wager. As an observer it appears that TMO is already hemmoraging Mobs, members, loot, and various issues brought to light on these forums such as them knowing about people RMTing and cheating yet still inviting them to their gaming organization, as well as having an officer telling people in guild chat not to cheat on mains but to use alts have cast a very bad light on TMO over the last week.

I for one would be delighted to see Alarti be a man of his word in regards to the wager he himself began.

GMs can we get some confirmation on these rulings, please?
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Old 03-01-2013, 04:58 PM
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Sunra/Mithra got his shield back, you an gladly ask him. Not sure how one can prove one way or another, and i guess maybe that was alarti intentions the whole time i cannot say. Unfortunately no items are nodrop where you could post the log of them looting the item and still having the item, TMO said they would recieve loot from the kill, so i guess a screenshot of them receiving items from Sirken would prove it in their case, but will not happen, as i have stated the loot was already returned.
That's some pretty weak proof. There should be screenshots of discussions with GMs, screenshots of petitions forums, or GM confirmation.

None of these things should be so hard to obtain, I'm afraid without them I must agree with Alarti and simply be patient, however if either side is unable to prove definitavely then neither side can technically lose the wager.
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Old 03-01-2013, 05:03 PM
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You see the burden of proof lies with Alarti. The best was not who got the loot, but that TMO would get the loot, which they will not because it has already been awarded to the rightful people FE. The guild that KILLED the dragons. TMO called us weak when we started. They said we only get loot by sniping. They said we had to rely on them to kill dragons for us. Now it would seem TMO is relying on FE to kill dragons for their loot. They were out mobilized, we killed the dragons, and Alarti ran his arrogant mouth to the sum of 100k and a green dragon scale. Hey don't want to honor your word and pay fine with me, its 100k, if thats what your name is worth so be it. No hard feelings, and im serious, none at all, if its to much for you, then by all means bail out. Good Luck on future raids TMO, i actually do enjoy the competition. /salute.
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Old 03-01-2013, 05:08 PM
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You see the burden of proof lies with Alarti. The best was not who got the loot, but that TMO would get the loot, which they will not because it has already been awarded to the rightful people FE. The guild that KILLED the dragons. TMO called us weak when we started. They said we only get loot by sniping. They said we had to rely on them to kill dragons for us. Now it would seem TMO is relying on FE to kill dragons for their loot. They were out mobilized, we killed the dragons, and Alarti ran his arrogant mouth to the sum of 100k and a green dragon scale. Hey don't want to honor your word and pay fine with me, its 100k, if thats what your name is worth so be it. No hard feelings, and im serious, none at all, if its to much for you, then by all means bail out. Good Luck on future raids TMO, i actually do enjoy the competition. /salute.
There is alot of misinformation in there. Maybe you are disregarding the evidence.? Did you see the Trak or Fay videos? I did.
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Old 03-01-2013, 05:09 PM
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I'm aware of the wording of the bet, as I'm sure Alarti is and you should have been. Without proof that the loot is NOT going back to TMO, either via failed petitions - GM confirmation, or some other unambigous evidence, then FE has -0% chance of ever winning the bet.

Likewise, if Alarti wishes to win the bet, he is required to post the same evidence that the loot did go to TMO, or a GM ruling that is going to be turned over to TMO, or something in a similar vein.

The burden of proof lies with whoever wishes to win the bet.

Post some and you may have some shred of credibility. Keep bitching about it without posting proof and you come-off as retarded as Alarti.

Do you really want to come-off ass retarded as Alarti?

By all means though, keep calling each other names or whatever retarded shit it is you people do on these forums, but some proof and a verdict one way or another would be far more interesting. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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