FTE Shouts: Rethinking Their Mechanics and Issue

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Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Would you propose a generally agreed upon timer (3 mins? 5 mins? varies by target?) between FTE shout and FTC shout after which the FTE shout is reset and the target is open to being yanked from the puller? It may change where raids set up camp to pull to, but it will take the guesswork out of who was ready to commit to the mob first and simplify encounter log review and intervention after-the-fact by GMs, who I'm sure have better things to do.

Honestly, I don't know. The problem of kiting out door dragons is something that's really got me baffled with regards to how to code something to prevent, or at least strongly discourage it.

One idea I had, very similar to yours, was to time how long it takes to pull a mob from its current spot to the normal camp. Say, ogre island for Faydedar. Find the fastest possible time it takes to pull him from his normal pathing area and add 45 seconds to it. If that time is exceeded then he does some sort of shout/disengage and informs people that he's on the market (just like you suggest) and cannot be engaged by the kiting guild until some further event (say the 2nd guild kites or something).

Of course, this solution is full of holes. You can move your camp, if you need more time, just camp out at a closer spot, "pre-kite" him to a corner of the zone. Etc. Etc.

To your specific suggestion, I think generally agreed timers for each mob could work, but I'm not sure that would be a huge improvement, the timers would have to be well-calibrated to account for different camps, roaming dragons, and so on. It's a bit of a pickle, and it might overly complicate it.

On the other hand, forcing a very specific and known timer on a pulling guild might provide a lot of security for the raid scene if everyone knows exactly how it works and the rules are clearly spelled out.

Back to the main idea, I'm not sure that Outdoor dragons and kites are a HUGE problem. At least not so much that they outright beg for some sort of modification from the current set up.