When will something be done about intentional trains?

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[Theldios]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Someone doesn't know how to read.

But that's okay, let your ignorance lead you to believe that and go train people. Then enjoy your ban when we impliment our train detection system.

No actualy in the past you have stated when people came out and said they were gonna train that would "ban them"
such as here in this thread http://project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=10725

and now you are saying that you will not. My reading compreshension is just fine perhaps your memory should be checked.
also you infered that I said somewhere in there that I would be training, guess it really is you who needs to learn how to read, Not I. because no where did i even come close to infering that I would ever be training. On the contrary i have been intentonaly trained reported it and see that nothing has or will be done about it and you in your statment confirmed that yes in fact even though you can do something about it you will not.

Guess you really need that memory and reading comprehension checked . not me. The ignorace abounds when you can not remeber your own words nor actualy read those typed.

[oldhead]

Originally Posted by azxten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Use a service like this...

http://www.proveout.com/r/phone-verification.html

Tie account creation with phone verification. This eventually adds a cost to creating an account when you run out of numbers to use. Also a lot of these services allow you to block virtual numbers from service like Google talk, Skype, etc and payphones.

I like this idea but would be very costly.

Any other services out there that would accomplish the same thing but cost less?

[maya]

relax theldios, people are still getting banned for training. yikes.

[Zithax]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Even if there were, whats to prevent someone from continueing to create level 1 characters and training people?

I'm open to suggestions.

How about a custom command such as /trained that relays to the server GM's like a petition, but a "Alert: I've been trained JUST NOW" that GM's can allow to take specific topic priority over regular /petitions.

Players should add names and a description after the command, so "soandso trained me" gets priority over "omg we just got trained help me find who it was."

Obviously, you would need to make clear that the command is to be used for TRAINS ONLY and mis-use is subject to punishment.

Thoughts?

[Quitis]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Now lets say someone did train someone else with the same IP Address. How do we actually prove it was them and not someone else living in the same house/apartment/campus? Would you like to be banned for something a roommate did?

This question is actually very easy to answer. ABSOLUTELY.

A persons character is protected by username/password security that is known only to the owner of the account. It is their sole responsibilty to protect that security, and their full responsibility should they give that information to a third party and that third party make illegal use of said account. It doesn't matter who logged into your character, you are ultimately responsible for anything that happens, and are ultimately liable and bannable/deletable should something occur. No excuses, no iffs ands or butts about it. Stop unbanning people who use the excuse "my brother did it, so and so roommate did it, someone in my guild did it". Keep them banned, and force them to make a better choice with their next character that is called, DO NOT SHARE YOUR INFO. That is as simple a rule to follow as DO NOT TWO BOX now isn't it. And you wouldn't unban someone for 2boxing would you?

[Aandolaf]

Not to mention that most people who complain and blame their roomate/brother are probably lying.

[GreenRanger]

easy solution. dont piss off people cuz they will train your ass and take a well deserved banning. cuz the quillmaneslayer will hunt you down. COUGHgreenwoodCOUGH.

[Uaellaen]

imho we should just ban everyone, pack up and go outside!! im sure that would solve all problems here [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[chtulu]

First off, I'd like to thank everyone who hijacked my thread that I made when i was semi irritated.

Secondly, to be quite honest, the stance the GMs and everyone who has their hand in this game is quite soft.

Even Shards of dalaya (emu) or WoW, and most other MMORPGs rules say that they do not CONDONE the act of sharing accounts due to the fact that it compromises their account, even if it's by someone they know. Every single one of these games clearly state that any activity on your account is held responsible for their actions, not the individual.

The question I'd like to ask back is this. Why wouldn't you ban someone's account if the illegal or inappropriate actions were done using theirs, or anyone else's account? It's the account holders responsibility to make sure nothing illegal or shady is happening using their account.

Hell, my brother's account on SoD got banned for a week simply because someone who used his account a few times did some shit and got banned. They then banned all accounts that were even vaguely linked to the main culprit. My brother had to write an e-mail and state reasons why his account SHOULDN'T be banned like the others.


Stop being so damn soft on people who are here simply to troll and grieve others. Harsh punishment is appropriate here. After all, it is a FREE server. Who cares if you guys accidentally ban "innocent" people? If they are innocent they can e-mail you guys explaining why they should be let back on.

This would deter most people who are around that are just here to fuck with others. It will also promote others to become like a neighborhood watch. Severe and quick punishments will make people police each other if they decide to share accounts, because no one wants one of their friends fucking them over by screwing around on their account.