When will something be done about intentional trains?

[Greenwood]

Originally Posted by GreenRanger [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

easy solution. dont piss off people cuz they will train your ass and take a well deserved banning. cuz the quillmaneslayer will hunt you down. COUGHgreenwoodCOUGH.

U MAD?

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[UrsusMajor]

Originally Posted by chtulu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

First off, I'd like to thank everyone who hijacked my thread that I made when i was semi irritated.

Secondly, to be quite honest, the stance the GMs and everyone who has their hand in this game is quite soft.

Even Shards of dalaya (emu) or WoW, and most other MMORPGs rules say that they do not CONDONE the act of sharing accounts due to the fact that it compromises their account, even if it's by someone they know. Every single one of these games clearly state that any activity on your account is held responsible for their actions, not the individual.

The question I'd like to ask back is this. Why wouldn't you ban someone's account if the illegal or inappropriate actions were done using theirs, or anyone else's account? It's the account holders responsibility to make sure nothing illegal or shady is happening using their account.

Hell, my brother's account on SoD got banned for a week simply because someone who used his account a few times did some shit and got banned. They then banned all accounts that were even vaguely linked to the main culprit. My brother had to write an e-mail and state reasons why his account SHOULDN'T be banned like the others.


Stop being so damn soft on people who are here simply to troll and grieve others. Harsh punishment is appropriate here. After all, it is a FREE server. Who cares if you guys accidentally ban "innocent" people? If they are innocent they can e-mail you guys explaining why they should be let back on.

This would deter most people who are around that are just here to fuck with others. It will also promote others to become like a neighborhood watch. Severe and quick punishments will make people police each other if they decide to share accounts, because no one wants one of their friends fucking them over by screwing around on their account.

Agrees whole heartedly!

[Theldios]

Originally Posted by maya [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

relax theldios, people are still getting banned for training. yikes.

umm no they are not

[Stickyfingers]

1. Hire new mindless staff member with time out the ass.
2. Have him find the IP's of all people who have trained.
3. Call those people's ISP's
4. Have them removed from the ISP for harassment and threaten a lawsuit if otherwise.
5. Profit.

[slydexx]

I think we need to get the Department of Homeland Security in on this.
With some of the postings here on how to 'fix' the trains, those guys probably love the patriot act too.
Take a trip to the airport and have us all body scanned at log in

[Overcast]

What about GM's having to ok each account?

Of course, that would make new players have to wait a day or two until a GM ok's it - but it would stop knee jerk account creation for training.

Dunno, other than some kind of account creation fee - which opens up a whole different can of worms...

Too bad every MMO ends up with these little babies who suck at games and have to either train or cheat to get anywhere. Glad my skills don't suck to where I need those tactics to get anywhere.

As for sharing accounts - if you do that, you take on the risk...

[Arclanz]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is no threatening. There's banning or not banning. We either have the proof to ban someone or we don't. A Train on the same IP Address is currently not something we'll ban all accounts matched to that IP For.

Which also brings up something else, oh boy fun! Guilds share account information all over. How would you feel for being banned because a friend of yours had logged into your account only once before... and then trained someone with a new account they made on the same IP?

That would not fly well with the community.

Rog, I love your server man and you do a great job. I have to strongly disagree with your disposition. Giving an IP a free pass to act like a jerk using the "oh nos it wasn't me it was my evil twin" excuse is B.S.

I could more easily accept it if you just said you don't have the time or resources to police this stuff. Because with some log parsing you can see if a player is being a D-bag and find their IP and ban them. But I understand these things take time.

[cbs]

Originally Posted by Arclanz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rog, I love your server man and you do a great job. I have to strongly disagree with your disposition. Giving an IP a free pass to act like a jerk using the "oh nos it wasn't me it was my evil twin" excuse is B.S.

I could more easily accept it if you just said you don't have the time or resources to police this stuff. Because with some log parsing you can see if a player is being a D-bag and find their IP and ban them. But I understand these things take time.

You could always go from being a care bear server to a PVP. That way if some D-bag trains or KS your group, you can kill him and take his stuff. Yeah Frontier justice. That's what I'm talking about.

[Noleafclover]

Question - if someone in say, WI, or Remedy or DA or IB or (other guild that's at least somewhat known) accuses a level 1 of training, is there a high standard of proof for that? I mean it's a stretch to assume any of us are out to get level ones banned.

For another thing, would it be a ton to ask for a GM to check efreeti once a week and ban all lv. 1s who have corpses there? This would at least grief the griefers a little.

And then from there, I'm no whiz but if 10+ accounts get created from the same IP in a week, you know they're training.

So you ban them. And if they e-mail you with a sob story, then you unban 'em and tell 'em to talk to their roommate so it doesn't happen again.

Would at least solve the problem from those who don't change their IPs.

[zs3000]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Even if there were, whats to prevent someone from continueing to create level 1 characters and training people?

I'm open to suggestions.

IP bans work, and you can make excuses for why it won't, but it's the way to stop it. Period.