Warrior Aggro

[axius]

on this server as a warrior you have 2 options:

2x obsidian shards - get these ASAP

use those until you can get:

2x ssoy's

that's the end of the discussion so far as what you CAN do for better threat on this server

[Bashez]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That last line in your post only makes sense if you have terrible reflexes, in which case people will have already noticed how bad of a tank you are. Taunt should be used only if your not on aggro, with fast enough reaction if you do lose aggro that you only lose it for a couple seconds. If taunt is down because you mashed it like a retard you'll have to wait for it to come back up.

If your already at the top of hate and hit taunt, it does nothing.

Who can tell I play a warrior on eqlive >_>

If you are generating 75 threat per second while a caster is doing 100 threat per second and you start at 500 and they start at 0. I've immediately mashed taunt and it has done nothing. 6 seconds later you have 950 and they have 600. Another 6 seconds and it is 1400 to 1200. Mashing taunt does nothing again. Another 6 seconds go by. 1850 to 1800. Another 6: 2300 to 2400. I still have aggro because I am melee range and the caster is not. I mash taunt and my threat goes to 2401. Now with 100% taunt success I can never lose aggro because the caster cannot put enough distance on me in 6 seconds to draw aggro. As the aggro numbers grow higher I need a less effective taunt to hold aggro as well. Additionally in the instance of a failed taunt my taunt will be refreshing (because I mashed it) and yours will need a full cooldown because your missed came after already losing focus.

My argument of course rests on two things I'm not 100% on. That at range players need a percentage increase in threat over the tank to take aggro. And that being second on hate but first on focus (due to being closer) taunting will actually move you to first on hate. Back in the day we didn't have any way to tangibly measure taunt so if taunt works differently I'd like to know.

[Yilza Moosik]

Originally Posted by axius [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

on this server as a warrior you have 2 options:

2x obsidian shards - get these ASAP

use those until you can get:

2x ssoy's

that's the end of the discussion so far as what you CAN do for better threat on this server

Obsidian shards aint that good agro - think ac debuff or something is bugged, cause agro aint that great. Gnoll Hide Lariats are way better for agro, than obsidian shards. But less damage of course. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Bashez]

My bard friend had aggro problems with his staff of writhing. I let him use my obsidian shards and he stopped getting aggro. They have been pretty terrible aggro as far as I can tell.

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Bashez [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My bard friend had aggro problems with his staff of writhing. I let him use my obsidian shards and he stopped getting aggro. They have been pretty terrible aggro as far as I can tell.

Yeah, that staff uses a chanter nuke and all chanter nukes give HUGE agro.
This is partially due to the fact that they include a split second stun component of course.

[Rifter]

Originally Posted by Bashez [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My bard friend had aggro problems with his staff of writhing. I let him use my obsidian shards and he stopped getting aggro. They have been pretty terrible aggro as far as I can tell.

Was your bard friend's level high enough to proc those weapons? Those things are mad aggro.

Also, bards are terrible at melee.

[Frankee]

I've also noticed a huge difference in threat gen when I have a damage shield so im guessing you get the threat generated by it.

I would suggest if your in a group with a damage shield buffer that you be the only person to receive it. It's even harder pulling mobs back from group mates who have DS'es as well.

Anyone confirm / deny this?

[Icecometus]

Before they took out the "your spell has wore off" messages I don't remember seeing a message after having the shards proc multiple times within the 1min duration of the AC penalty. Does anyone else? It might be that the AC debuff is not working correctly.

[Yoite]

when we still had the so and so spell has worn off messages you would get a new message each time the shard proced if it proced again before the debuff normal duration expired.

[Dantes]

I think it's working fine. The proc still creates plenty of hate.