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Old 07-19-2010, 03:44 PM
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Some topical reading today...
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Was last month warm where you live? If so, you weren't alone. According to measurements taken by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) June 2010 was the hottest June on record worldwide. But this is not a new trend, at least for this year. March, April, and May 2010 were also the warmest on record. This was also the 304th consecutive month with a global temperature above the 20th century average. The last month with below-average temperature was February 1985.
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Some topical reading today...
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It's unfortunate. They fail to recognize the fact that El Nino is occuring this year, causing the temperature of the oceans to rise and thus causing very warm temperatures this summer. Of course though, they couldn't say something NATURAL was causing it, now could they.



Also, I am very skeptical about Global Warming. Especially when the information used in the studies is drawn from only 2 different sources. There has also been issue in the past, most recently http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climati...il_controversy


Basically some people hacked some climate study email accounts and found that in many of the emails LEAD scientists for Global Warming were discussing ways to cover up and make it seem as though the numbers were conducive to global warming.

There was also an incident a few years ago, where NASA "accidently" used the same temperature data set for October that they recorded in September for a large region of Russia, causing the temperatures to report higher than they were. Of course some kind citizens I believe cracked the database and found the anomaly. They called NASA out on it and NASA basically said, "Oh, our bad, that was a mistake". SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUREEEEEE.
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Basically some people hacked some climate study email accounts and found that in many of the emails LEAD scientists for Global Warming were discussing ways to cover up and make it seem as though the numbers were conducive to global warming.
This sounds very interesting. Mind posting a link to this news article?
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This sounds very interesting. Mind posting a link to this news article?
Heres a link

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/ja...lobal-warming/


Perhaps a more legitimate link, this one kind of douses the concerns. However, it also raises other ones. It's hard to know who to believe, especially with such a large vested interest between businesses and news outlets like CBS and Fox.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/...n6653464.shtml
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Heres a link

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/ja...lobal-warming/


Perhaps a more legitimate link, this one kind of douses the concerns. However, it also raises other ones. It's hard to know who to believe, especially with such a large vested interest between businesses and news outlets like CBS and Fox.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/...n6653464.shtml
Ah, The Daily Telegraph... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know they also posted this article a few months prior:

On 1 January 2009, The Daily Telegraph published “Greenhouse gases could have caused an ice age, claim scientists”, which said “Scientists have warned” that “filling the atmosphere with Greenhouse gases associated with global warming could push the planet into a new ice age”.

The research they were quoting was from was Professor Ian Fairchild. He claimed that The Telegraph was misrepresenting his findings. The Daily Telegraph refused to publish an apology and deleted his comments on the website.
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It's unfortunate. They fail to recognize the fact that El Nino is occuring this year, causing the temperature of the oceans to rise and thus causing very warm temperatures this summer. Of course though, they couldn't say something NATURAL was causing it, now could they.



Also, I am very skeptical about Global Warming. Especially when the information used in the studies is drawn from only 2 different sources. There has also been issue in the past, most recently http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climati...il_controversy


Basically some people hacked some climate study email accounts and found that in many of the emails LEAD scientists for Global Warming were discussing ways to cover up and make it seem as though the numbers were conducive to global warming.

There was also an incident a few years ago, where NASA "accidently" used the same temperature data set for October that they recorded in September for a large region of Russia, causing the temperatures to report higher than they were. Of course some kind citizens I believe cracked the database and found the anomaly. They called NASA out on it and NASA basically said, "Oh, our bad, that was a mistake". SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUREEEEEE.
What do you think is causing the rising ocean surface temperature, aka El Nino?...

And as far as 'climategate' is concerned, every single person involved was exonerated and not a single research paper was retracted by any science journal. The entire thing was hot-air stirred up by the media.
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LOL here we go again. Actually I'm downright surprised there is someone that does not know anything about this, it's called climategate. ...I mean anyone that has been following the controversy at all even the past few years for real. This news was major breaking on most every network. There was a big uproar over it. Even a song/video... lol (posted it already) it's hilarious! I'm baffled that people don't know and or support this bogus data. Well I know why some do, they have made tons of money and power off of the whole thing. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I guess they keep their disciples in the dark somehow. Time to reevaluate.

Now I know that any link I provide will be absolutely and positively rejected unless it says I am lying... but for those that did their homework and are in the know already, this is interesting: Rep Candice Miller
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“We saw no evidence of any deliberate scientific malpractice in any of the work of the Climatic Research Unit and had it been there we believe that it is likely that we would have detected it,” says the Oxburgh report. “Rather we found a small group of dedicated if slightly disorganised researchers who were ill-prepared for being the focus of public attention” -An independent panel of 11 led by the University of Oxford’s Lord Oxburgh

Michael Mann in his own words on the stolen CRU emails
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LOL here we go again. Actually I'm downright surprised there is someone that does not know anything about this, it's called climategate. ...I mean anyone that has been following the controversy at all even the past few years for real. This news was major breaking on most every network. There was a big uproar over it. Even a song/video... lol (posted it already) it's hilarious! I'm baffled that people don't know and or support this bogus data. Well I know why some do, they have made tons of money and power off of the whole thing. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I guess they keep their disciples in the dark somehow. Time to reevaluate.

Now I know that any link I provide will be absolutely and positively rejected unless it says I am lying... but for those that did their homework and are in the know already, this is interesting: Rep Candice Miller

You fail again. The case was dismissed and the people in question exonerated.
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Old 07-20-2010, 01:11 PM
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What do you think is causing the rising ocean surface temperature, aka El Nino?...

And as far as 'climategate' is concerned, every single person involved was exonerated and not a single research paper was retracted by any science journal. The entire thing was hot-air stirred up by the media.


Actually, you are wrong. El Nino is naturally occuring ever 3 to 7 years and has been going on for centuries if not thousands of years. Unless of course dinosaur farts were causing global warming way back in the day....


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Years that El Nino occured. Looks like its following the 3-7 gap with a few anomalies.
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