Game Mechanics: Necro heal recourse incorrectly dispellable

[koros]

Originally Posted by Potus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Necromancer spells never worked this way ever.

Correct. If a necro lost bond of death or vexing when the mob got dispelled, there would have been a lot more vocal necros...

[Fazlazen]

Originally Posted by koros [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here's reference:


SPELL COMMENTS
NECRO BOTB, By Bronchite (6/19/2001)

Im a 55necro that competed in the necro BotB of Karana, I killed my first opponent but i changed tactic and died at the 2nd round but thats not the point. The point is that this spell is absolutely a crap in the BotB, it kills the others pet right away. the final was a fight between 2 60s, one had the spell, the other didnt have it, so guess who won. this spell should be forbiden in the BotB

Haha, that is me! (Bronchite)

[koros]

Originally Posted by Fazlazen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Haha, that is me! (Bronchite)

Lol that's awesome. Do you remember making that comment?

[Fazlazen]

Originally Posted by koros [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol that's awesome. Do you remember making that comment?

I do not remember the comment. I remember the botb tho. Can you link the webpage where that comment can be found please?

[pasi]

Originally Posted by koros [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Correct. If a necro lost bond of death or vexing when the mob got dispelled, there would have been a lot more vocal necros...

Additionally, the heal being tied to the dot would cease working in the event of mob death if that were the case. This was never the case.

Anyhow, not gonna repeat myself on this topic. Been discussed too much as is.

[koros]

Originally Posted by Fazlazen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I do not remember the comment. I remember the botb tho. Can you link the webpage where that comment can be found please?

https://web.archive.org/web/20011125...ons.asp?Id=508

[Nirgon]

The part I'm buying to be sure is the no recourse part and it would just hurt the necro in question.

Whatever the case is, 1 person would have at least tried to dispel this visible and pretty damaging effect (esp on people not decked out.. aka most people for the era).

It would be so much easier to find a comment about "just dispel the damaging portion" at least for a few patches if it was possible during classic-vanilla.

Not sure why Zyrino/the rest of the botb necros are being counted as entirely clueless. The whole fight hinged on this mechanic. There's just no way people wouldn't have tried to dispel the damage from the recouse for a paltry 30 mana.

Maybe I should have promoted item loot and a green con see invis guard after this was fixed instead of before? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Y u h8 the classic?

Edit: big ups to Faz, I see you

[koros]

There was a damn recourse. Do you think bond of death or vexing mordinia didn't have a recourse? It was just called "Bond of Death" when it was on the necro, but it healed them.

[Nirgon]

Forget where that theory of no recourse came from.

Bond obviously did and I'm certain of it from 1v1 pvp encounters.

I'm just not seeing all the posts in the classic wayback digs saying "oh yeah just dispel it" for the pact line.

People WOULD have tried to dispel this (like how we noticed you could here...). Just like I don't see people talking about how you could dispel res effects.

The classic healing guide mentions 0 about this. The wiki is just promoting this bug.

[baalzy]

Some devil advocating:

How widely known was it for people to use Soulfires to have 5 instant click CHs on a tank?
How widely known was it for people to use Midnight Mallet to lock aggro onto the tank?

Pretty sure these worked the same way they're used now, but noone realized it.