Velious99UI - Green Server UI - Feedback/Bugs/Discussion

[Ashenden]

Yeah it sucks how limited the UI files are. I've played with them some over the years. I'm glad people are trying at all.

[Wenai]

I don’t want something janky and thrown together. So likelihood of it happening is low. Could it happen? Maybe. Currently focusing on improvements from feedback.

[Jibartik]

Here's what we'll try for the minim viable, just reduce the starting size to be roughly more classic and then remove everything but names. Oh I might increase image size if that is super easy. (also cross fingers this makes it so you cant level up when you reach full exp so we know how dangerous adding things in this short to launch is lol)

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Then, after looking at this I might marbleize it if I have time this weekend and it if rogean is still accepting fresh builds from us (we are trying to not so they can make sure everything is secure for launch!)

Edit wait it wont look like that because of reasons, but.. see its always something lol Anyway, we'll figure out how to get you something that makes this game more difficult and looks like that, that's the bottom line haha

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Then, after looking at this I might marbleize it if I have time this weekend and it if rogean is still accepting fresh builds from us (we are trying to not so they can make sure everything is secure for launch!)

Edit wait it wont look like that because of reasons, but.. see its always something lol Anyway, we'll figure out how to get you something that makes this game more difficult and looks like that, that's the bottom line haha

Awesome sauce!

And also thanks for the explanation. At first it sounded like "we're going to have an unclassic feature because not having it wouldn't look pretty" ... and that just didn't sound "P99" to me.

But if it's not about "looking pretty", and it's more like "this stupid EQ UI is like Jenga: one wrong move and ..."

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... then of course a stable/working UI is better than an unstable one with one more classic feature.

So if that's the case, please don't let an idiot like me distract you and Wenai (and everyone else who didn't directly respond to me) from your incredible project!

[Dural_Levant]

So, I have to admit that I am a bit overwhelmed by this thread. I skimmed through the first few pages; examining some of this screen shots.

The only question I really want the answer to is:

Does this mean we're getting hot-button bars with 10 slots soon?

[Ashenden]

Looks like a great stopgap for more correct functionality, and nicer looking to boot. I have straight up no clue how you'd possibly get it changed from the current call to use a list to columns with only icons personally, but godspeed.

[semioldguy]

That looks awesome.

It can't be stated enough how much everyone's work is appreciated. Y'all do an amazing job.

[Jibartik]

Yeah SIDL (the language titanium ui uses) can actually crash the game in some cases, so like you never know, may check out at first then a week later someone adjusts the quantity of rat ears they want to sell and *Poof* They're looking at their desktop haha

Don't want to slip that into green launch week on accident [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] But maybe this one we can get through the testing machine, it seems harmless to me, we will try!

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah SIDL (the language titanium ui uses) can actually crash the game in some cases, so like you never know, may check out at first then a week later someone adjusts the quantity of rat ears they want to sell and *Poof* They're looking at their desktop haha

Don't want to slip that into green launch week on accident [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] But maybe this one we can get through the testing machine, it seems harmless to me, we will try!

Ugh. I imagine there is already tooling for this (eg. https://www.eqinterface.com/index.php?section=sidlwidl), but if you could use an XML Schema (ie. a way to verify that the UI code doesn't break any of its own rules) let me know. I used to make such things years ago, and I could always grab the book that's currently propping up my monitor to remind myself how [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Unfortunately though I imagine it's probably something where you are following the rules, and Verant's code just explodes anyway ... but again if there's anything I can do to help on that level let me know.

P.S. I also used to do XSLT. I doubt this would be useful, but if you ever need to produce like multiple versions of the UI files for some reason, I can probably write a "transformer" that would take a base version and turn it into the "green version" or the "blue version" or whatever.

[soronil]

just wanted to say really appreciate the hard work that everyone contributed to this. Looking forward to it getting even better.