Guys, TMO is still killing dragons...

[quido]

Originally Posted by Insane-Truthteller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so you are cool with all guilds actively sitting at the KC zone in with their raid force ?

Cool with it? No. But do I think it's against the rules? No I do not.

I think that quote is being taken out of context, Breaken. It was stated that the zone-in is alright. A raid force, or any force other than the 2 trackers/engagers, anywhere except the zone-in is a violation of the rules. At least that was my take on it.

You could easily have a force of people able to kill VS at the zone-in by mere coincidence of them idling afk and looking for ports and such.

[quido]

Disallowing people to use KC as the travel hub that it is is absurd. I don't think this is what was meant.

[Frogie305]

despawn all raid mobs..... Until Pantheon is Released... = $$$$$$

[Breaken]

So, you assume that Rogean did not mean what he said, because it sounds absurd to you?

You again mention that it was said zone in is ok, but where was that said? It might have been, but I haven't seen it.

[Gnomersy]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cool with it? No. But do I think it's against the rules? No I do not.

I think that quote is being taken out of context, Breaken. It was stated that the zone-in is alright. A raid force, or any force other than the 2 trackers/engagers, anywhere except the zone-in is a violation of the rules. At least that was my take on it.

You could easily have a force of people able to kill VS at the zone-in by mere coincidence of them idling afk and looking for ports and such.

Im not disagreeing but kind of a large assumption that its ok.

[quido]

Originally Posted by Breaken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Where? By who?

I am looking for where this was stated, but I know it was. Someone help me find it. This was definitely stated somewhere.

[quido]

Time to lawyer up!

[Turp_SmokinPurp]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cool with it? No. But do I think it's against the rules? No I do not.

I think that quote is being taken out of context, Breaken. It was stated that the zone-in is alright. A raid force, or any force other than the 2 trackers/engagers, anywhere except the zone-in is a violation of the rules. At least that was my take on it.

You could easily have a force of people able to kill VS at the zone-in by mere coincidence of them idling afk and looking for ports and such.

Another point they keep forgetting Jeremy is TMO didnt have a damn force at the zone in. They magically pulled that outta the hat and all are going along with it. Trying to rule change on something that did not happen.
Yea we might of had 4-5 but like I said Draco had just died, and we was still moving and setting up. They are acting in the raid thread (havent seen it disagreed with even) that TMO had a force at entrance like that Europa screenshot or some shit. When really our force was camped out, an just mobilized in faster.

Originally Posted by Insane-Truthteller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

actually this would make things a lot different because it would involve guilds mobilizing to kill things after a mob spawns instead of before it spawns....

You think it had nothing to do with mobilization? you are wrong an just feeding off the shit they are posting in raid section that cannot be debated, or isnt being debated. There was no full force of TMO ready to run back instantly. They logged in and moved fast. ie mobilized faster than everyone.
I said the rule change wouldnt be bad, an it surely would not be big. In the sense that doing that will not make that big of a difference. Mobilization was a key part of that VS.

[Hitpoint]

Originally Posted by Breaken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Where? By who?

Zone-ins are fine. We don't need proof when something has been accepted and put into practice for over a month now. No GM has said anything about it, despite numerous posts (see bellow) and I'm sure petitions by class R.

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=138177

[Breaken]

Right, I am not disagreeing that KC zone line does not help (as long as others are doing it / can do it). And if it was stated, so be it. But as Gnomersy said, that is a large assumption that you feel Rogean did not mean what he said. I would personally make the large assumption that Rogean would be VERY careful in wording a publicly advertised raid suspension. Therefore meaning every letter of that sentence.