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[Massive Marc]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It was, actually.. I took the spawn times and made a note, and also got other guides involved. Mob spawned and wasn't engaged right away.. I would AFK in the lair to keep an eye on it but ultimately end up missing it either to being pre-occupied or sleeping or at work, as it was the same for other guides. Finally we did end up being present for one. I was thinking of developing an SMS system for when a mob is engaged...

Here's my beef with this post:

At the high end Classic Everquest (pre planes) has 3 spawns that are worth contesting with a guild, Phinny,Vox,Naggy. How is it possible, as the server provider, that you're not able to put in the time to A: be there for the fights or B: have another member of the staff there to overlook the event. Any scrub surfing these forums knew the encounter was fucked up. Yet all encounters were exploited and nothing was done until now and as a result of piss poor public relations a whole guild was banned/suspended as your fix ?

Please, I know you're better then this.

[Nizzarr]

To be fair with holocaust -- I posted a bug report in the petition/exploit forum and there wasnt any views on it (except mine) after one week.

THERE YOU GO, TROLL AWAY.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Nizzarr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nirgon, thats a lot of disinformation you post -- so much youre even contradicting yourself.

LOL @ not knowing how to pull ghoul lord solo to anywhere in guk.

If only you had a clue -- but you're just retarded.

Heartbrand got this exploit from you, we took it, you raged.

You've been suspended and delvled to 54 for using MQ. Likely, knowing your penchant for showing exploits, distributed it up blue.

The bug has been posted about pulling a mob and having someone cast invis or ITU on you depending on the type of mob. This includes an Amelinda response that you will be suspended etc if you are seen doing it. Give me a break.

What credibility do you have? Oh, a convenience you enjoyed until we stripped that information from you and used it to our advantage. How quickly you and Reika using the exploit and lawling about your dragon kills on the forums turn into crying petition/AIM/IRC spamfest about it when the ball is no longer in your court. The court being a pvp server.

Thanks for making the server look good bud.

[Supreme]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you are asking for my personal opinion than I can oblige. I absolutely do not think the first kills were legitimate.

The keyword here is that it is my opinion.. my opinion alone does not give me what is necessary to take action on, which is a completely different situation. Just like a Judge may have an opinion about someone, may even talk down to them in court and say they were in the wrong, but in the end they ultimately have to prove without a doubt they were guilty to convict them.

You look at an encounter log like that and say, there's no way they could have killed nagafen with the number of players and the gear and char levels.. I look at it and consider the same thing and it pains me that I wasn't there to see it so that I could have the ammunition I would need to take action on it.

Absolutely.


No one is going to say that the first two Nagafen kills were "legitimate". What has been said is that the encounter bugged out was reported. Server was patched and it was assumed Nagafen had been fixed but it bugged out again.

Holocaust intentionally bugged the encounter the third and fourth times and was banned for being caught the fourth time.


Knowing that the encounter was/could be bugged should have been an indicator to engage this mob with caution. However caution was not taken and now you have this...


I would add that while Rogean made a decision to disband Holocaust for this I do not agree with it...but it is not MY decision to make. I only have to accept it (gladly i might add). Ranting about it over and over is not going to make him REVERSE his decision.

[fiegi]

Think the majority can agree that this situation couldn't of been fumbled any worse. There's still time to make it right.

[Rogean]

Originally Posted by Massive Marc [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

At the high end Classic Everquest (pre planes) has 3 spawns that are worth contesting with a guild, Phinny,Vox,Naggy.

Naggy, Vox, Phinny X2
Innoruuk, Cazic, Draco, Dojorn, VS, Trak, Sev, Tal, Gore, PharaDar, Silverwing, Hoshkar I'll just stop there.

PvP is not the only server we need to watch. On PvP the problem is exploiting.. On blue the problem is FTE Claims, Poopsocking, Training, etc.

[Melveny]

Still looking for an answer as to why "privately discussed" issue was broadcasted to the entire server.

Thanks!

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Depends.

How long was the fight, dDoes the log show the full damage of the mob's HP (The mob wasn't mem blurred)? etc...

Other miscellaneous things like that would need to be checked. At that point I would ban you, at the very least for an explanation (Which you wouldn't have if you didn't kill it legitimately).

And the explanation for their previous kills? Admitting the mob was bugged out and killed.

I suggest I pull a similar tactic. You state the contrary, that an unwitnessed act can in fact be punished.

We make clear that the current state of the dragon being killed is that it is pulled over and over until it bugs. Amelinda posts a snippet from one of many attempts where they are working to get the dragon to bug out but not the kill under a "There! See!" pretense, like I'm a fool.

I'm sorry Rogean, but I this has changed my opinions regarding a situation I thought would not exist. I can't see how anyone can agree with this decision.

[Rogean]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

PharaDar, Silverwing, Hoshkar.

Gonna take back those mobs I mentioned since VP on blue has no RP Enforcement.

[Massive Marc]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Naggy, Vox, Phinny X2
Innoruuk, Cazic, Draco, Dojorn, VS, Trak, Sev, Tal, Gore, PharaDar, Silverwing, Hoshkar I'll just stop there.

PvP is not the only server we need to watch. On PvP the problem is exploiting.. On blue the problem is FTE Claims, Poopsocking, Training, etc.

Bro. None of those mobs are currently in Red99, which is currently what this thread is about, please don't deflect.