The Common Man's NToV Raid Rules Thread

[Rararboker]

Also, do you guys even ntov? If it isnt a mob from near triplets then rampage kills it at Aary spot.

[Spyder73]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That level of excess is what the hardcore raiders of this server expect. It's not enough to have a 6k raid buffed character with full ST gear, full NToV gear, and AoW drops - it's about having 3 other alts geared like that as well and those hardcore players will do WHATEVER IT TAKES to get that loot. They would sit in Venril Sathir's room for over 100 hours just to get a kill. Taken used to straight up sock Inny for 100 hours at a time if need be. First in force would be a disaster.

As much as I hate to agree with BDA scum (Shout out to Timberlandz<BDA> from MM last night, was good grouping) - Chest pretty much hit the nail on the head. The server is full of neckbeards who will go to extreme lengths for loot. We all b!tch about Socking/NoLifing to varying degrees, but its also part of what makes actually GETTING loot so great. It is both the reason I love and hate EQ simultaneously - if it were easy I wouldn't still be playing, but it can be insanely frustrating.

If you asked me before I started playing here if I thought hundreds of adults would wait 15 hours for a P99 raid mob to spawn, I would have laughed at you. Then I witnessed 300+ people in Feerott socking a Dracoliche spawn for SIX(6) hours...This was 4 years into Kunark mind you.

The solution to all of this is IMO is more Earthquakes - Emperor Rogean seems to disagree however

[arsenalpow]

Here's my solution, root every single raid mob everywhere. Period. If you want to get rid of kites, trains, bullshit, etc root every goddamn raid mob. If it's good for the goose (ToV) it's good for the gander (everyfuckingwhere else)

Then we only have to figure out leap frogging rules. Problem solved.

[JboxCSU]

Originally Posted by Spyder73 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As much as I hate to agree with BDA scum (Shout out to Timberlandz<BDA> from MM last night, was good grouping) - Chest pretty much hit the nail on the head. The server is full of neckbeards who will go to extreme lengths for loot. We all b!tch about Socking/NoLifing to varying degrees, but its also part of what makes actually GETTING loot so great. It is both the reason I love and hate EQ simultaneously - if it were easy I wouldn't still be playing, but it can be insanely frustrating.

If you asked me before I started playing here if I thought hundreds of adults would wait 15 hours for a P99 raid mob to spawn, I would have laughed at you. Then I witnessed 300+ people in Feerott socking a Dracoliche spawn for SIX(6) hours...This was 4 years into Kunark mind you.

The solution to all of this is IMO is more Earthquakes - Emperor Rogean seems to disagree however

Then a guild can camp Drach for 15 hours while everyone else disperses for another target to claim.

Sounds way more reasonable to me than having everyone and their mom sit there at the same time.

[maestrom]

Originally Posted by Spyder73 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As much as I hate to agree with BDA scum (Shout out to Timberlandz<BDA> from MM last night, was good grouping) - Chest pretty much hit the nail on the head. The server is full of neckbeards who will go to extreme lengths for loot. We all b!tch about Socking/NoLifing to varying degrees, but its also part of what makes actually GETTING loot so great. It is both the reason I love and hate EQ simultaneously - if it were easy I wouldn't still be playing, but it can be insanely frustrating.

If you asked me before I started playing here if I thought hundreds of adults would wait 15 hours for a P99 raid mob to spawn, I would have laughed at you. Then I witnessed 300+ people in Feerott socking a Dracoliche spawn for SIX(6) hours...This was 4 years into Kunark mind you.

The solution to all of this is IMO is more Earthquakes - Emperor Rogean seems to disagree however

Let them. Let BDA sock Lendi. Let Rampage sock Aary. Let Asgard sock Doze. Let Forsaken sock Statue. Let all of them sock. While they're socking, Family of Stalwart Adventurers might get a shot at Talendor, or VS, or CT.

Everquest is a game of socking. If people are gonna do it anyways, design a system whereby the casuals can use it to claim the lowest priority targets without Uber_Alt_01 saying "FTE brah"

[Rararboker]

Problem is that raid mobs don't always spawn at the same time as each other. In fact, once enough time has elapsed since the last server restart, they are all spread pretty well.

[maestrom]

The reason FIF works now, in Velious, and really never before is that Velious, like, doubled the number of raid targets. There should be plenty of raid content for everyone, but only if you make it so that guilds have to prioritize their targets.

[JboxCSU]

Originally Posted by Rararboker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Problem is that raid mobs don't always spawn at the same time as each other. In fact, once enough time has elapsed since the last server restart, they are all spread pretty well.

Cool. Know the spawn times, go sock the next spawn. If that one is getting socked, go to the next one. If that one is socked, go to the next one.

[maestrom]

Originally Posted by Rararboker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Problem is that raid mobs don't always spawn at the same time as each other. In fact, once enough time has elapsed since the last server restart, they are all spread pretty well.

This is, I think, the biggest obstacle to FIF.

I don't think its a HUGE problem though. All it takes is for 3-4 high priorty Velious targets to be in window the same time as trak for a FOSA guild to sneak a trak kill.

[Rararboker]

You sound like someone who has yet to experience the p99 raid scene. If it was that simple then we wouldnt be where we are right now. Run while you still can.