The Common Man's NToV Raid Rules Thread

[falkun]

Originally Posted by Rararboker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If people weren't pulling it to wtov it wouldn't be an issue. I was there in ntov when it all happened. That video only shows the door from iki side. Elament jumped up there when it was closed and couldn't see the mobs. No clue who opened it. But it isnt exactly prof either way as you couldn't see what was going on on the other side.

So you admit Elament jumped up there. Fantastic, why did Elament leave camp? He is now a puller because he is out of camp. Congratulations, your puller got FTE and brought Ikatair to camp, what is the problem? Oh, he brought two adds? Why did your puller train your camp? Oh, you weren't ready for the engage? Why did your puller have FTE if you were not ready to kill? These are all INTERNAL guild matters, why are you plastering them over the forums crying foul?

[Rararboker]

It is a real conundrum.

[Rararboker]

You seem to have a strenuous grasp of p99 rules and mechanics. Until those mobs made it back to their spawn points and reset, it was bda responsibility (since they were last fte before elament). It really isn't hard to figure out. Taken and rampage both concede and admit to wrong doing when they do this stuff. It is how things are handled in ntov.

[Juevento]

Using that insane logic (does Detoxx give you all advanced syphilis or some other malady that effects your mental capacities), then Elamant was responsible for the train once he had fte. Do you see why that fails to compute?

[arsenalpow]

It wasn't a train, those mobs were happily pathing back.

Right now it seems like the most valid strat is to have a camp away from every other fuxking guild, and the second best strat is to stand in the middle of a freeway and demand concessions anytime a car clips you.

This game is stupid.

[maestrom]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It wasn't a train, those mobs were happily pathing back.

Right now it seems like the most valid strat is to have a camp away from every other fuxking guild, and the second best strat is to stand in the middle of a freeway and demand concessions anytime a car clips you.

This game is stupid.

Honest question.

Whats the respawn on the trash?

[Juevento]

Originally Posted by maestrom [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Honest question.

Whats the respawn on the trash?

FYI trash respawn is 72 mins.

[falkun]

Originally Posted by Rararboker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You seem to have a strenuous grasp of p99 rules and mechanics. Until those mobs made it back to their spawn points and reset, it was bda responsibility (since they were last fte before elament). It really isn't hard to figure out. Taken and rampage both concede and admit to wrong doing when they do this stuff. It is how things are handled in ntov.

So because Taken pulls a mob from NTOV to WTOV, dies/FDs/COH/rezzes and BDA are next on FTE its now their train? Ikatair was still out of his room, initially moved by Taken. Why is it not Taken's train?

Let's look at this by removing BDA. If Chest/Relbaic had not FTE'd after Taken, Ikatair would still be out of lair due to a Taken pull, Elament would STILL be out of camp because he's an idiot, and Forgard would still have died to Ikatair and his adds. It was not BDA's train, it existed before BDA touched Ikatair. Elament still has not anti-train protections because he was an idiot mage out of camp.

Where does Forgard take responsibility for keeping their pullers from training their own raid and their raid members from not leaving camp?

[falkun]

Originally Posted by Rararboker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You seem to have a strenuous grasp of p99 rules and mechanics. Until those mobs made it back to their spawn points and reset, it was bda responsibility (since they were last fte before elament). It really isn't hard to figure out. Taken and rampage both concede and admit to wrong doing when they do this stuff. It is how things are handled in ntov.

You argue since BDA had FTE it is our train. OK, Ikatair is unaggroed and Elament gets FTE, it is now your train by the VERY SAME LOGIC.

[Nibblewitz]

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