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hit a sitting naked caster today with a tstaff while innerflamed for double 133.. which is the minimum hit max hit should have been like double 347 | ||
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Just tested sit damage for a minute. it's hitting for max on naked characters with no AC.
AC is playing way too big of a factor, the mitigation seems way too high when sitting. Logs from testing with Xepiz, he's a naked human warrior sitting. [Sat Oct 31 00:38:02 2015] You backstab Xepiz for 540 points of damage. [Sat Oct 31 00:38:02 2015] You backstab Xepiz for 540 points of damage. [Sat Oct 31 00:38:09 2015] Xepiz says, '540 double nice' [Sat Oct 31 00:38:11 2015] You backstab Xepiz for 540 points of damage. [Sat Oct 31 00:38:11 2015] You backstab Xepiz for 540 points of damage. [Sat Oct 31 00:38:11 2015] Xepiz goes into a berserker frenzy! [Sat Oct 31 00:38:33 2015] Xepiz says, 'go for it' [Sat Oct 31 00:38:35 2015] You backstab Xepiz for 540 points of damage. [Sat Oct 31 00:38:35 2015] You have slain Xepiz! [Sat Oct 31 00:38:35 2015] [PvP] Xepiz <TMO> has been defeated by Reebz <Friends> in Skyshrine! all hits were from when he was sitting down, and it did max 540 backstab damage, this is on a rogue with 255 dex, 255 str. we tried frontal slashing and piercing next. [Sat Oct 31 00:39:15 2015] Xepiz says, 'try frontal' [Sat Oct 31 00:39:16 2015] You say, 'i think so?' [Sat Oct 31 00:39:17 2015] You think you are heading North. [Sat Oct 31 00:39:20 2015] Auto attack is on. [Sat Oct 31 00:39:21 2015] You pierce Xepiz for 96 points of damage. [Sat Oct 31 00:39:21 2015] You slash Xepiz for 108 points of damage. [Sat Oct 31 00:39:21 2015] You slash Xepiz for 108 points of damage. [Sat Oct 31 00:39:21 2015] Auto attack is off. [Sat Oct 31 00:39:31 2015] Auto attack is on. [Sat Oct 31 00:39:31 2015] You pierce Xepiz for 96 points of damage. [Sat Oct 31 00:39:31 2015] You slash Xepiz for 108 points of damage. [Sat Oct 31 00:39:31 2015] You slash Xepiz for 108 points of damage. Max damage piercing and max damage slashing. Ragebringer 15/25 and Katana of Flowing Water 19/33 I also backstab Shnarf, plate wearing halfling cleric (Not sure how much AC he has) while he is sitting. [Sat Oct 31 00:45:07 2015] You backstab Shnarf for 248 points of damage. single, not max damage, AC seems to be an INSANE factor. [Sat Oct 31 00:45:32 2015] Xepiz says, 'let me try just a little AC' [Sat Oct 31 00:45:38 2015] Xepiz says, 'backstab' [Sat Oct 31 00:45:42 2015] You backstab Xepiz for 528 points of damage. [Sat Oct 31 00:45:42 2015] You backstab Xepiz for 528 points of damage. [Sat Oct 31 00:45:47 2015] Xepiz says, 'thats with 10 ac item' So AC is the difference I'm assuming, but the mitigation is insane in PvP. | ||
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AC mitigation should actually be higher than it is now
but a sitting player should get hit for max every single time, regardless of AC/gear | ||
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https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=124070
Patch Notes: Tuesday, October 8th, 2013 This patch contains new required files. Download and extract the Project 1999 Files (V30) to your EQ Titanium Directory. Alecta: Attacks on sitting defenders will now hit for your normal maximum hit instead of the theoretical maximum for your damage table. However, I can't find the thread where it was discussed | ||
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this was a fix awhile ago to tone down melles vs casters
non classic but adjusted according /thread closed | ||
#17
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Should be full max on sitting target. It used to work now it doesn't. This can be greatly abused using a druid to PL and just sit over and over (taking minimum hits instead of max) with self thorns + other dses stacked. Ain't classic.
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Pretty sure Haynar has a fix on the way. He referred to pvp in the other max hit bug thread.
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Its like AC goes on steroids. Interesting. Some type of AC/mitigation multiplier looks to be at work for sitting backstab targets. I assume this is a change Alecta pushed through, which is now obsolete and not classic in Velious. I would be conerned about a max-hit fix not addressing this additional problem AC/mitigation calculation. Will need further examination I reckon.
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this was a change alecta made because its not classic and it was reverted why did devs here just remove alecta's pvp code because a bunch of red99 melles are crying about this | |||
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