Petition for permanent IP ban punishment option

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let me reset my router.

Easy to do once you've been delevelled to 1 and stripped of all items. Reset x1000 if you want, won't bring your RMT pixels back [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[TWDL_Prexus]

HWID ban.

[Ezalor]

Swish, you seem to be extremely confused here.

1 - Person A gets caught RMTing
2 - Person A's EQEmu account is banned as punishment. He can no longer access his PP or characters on that account. No need to delete his character. He already can't play it.
3 - Person A creates a new EQEmu account
4 - Person A starts all over and RMTs once again.

The fact that there is no permanent punishment and this person can start over so easily is what I wanted to address.

My question is, with fluid IPs, is there any possible way we can have any type of permanent punishment for people who deserve it?

[Lagaidh]

I voted that I do not agree. For the average computer user (read: just about everyone here. No, writing a log parser does not make you an expert on all things computer-related), it's difficult to guarantee that your network could become compromised.

A tech savvy person with an axe to grind against a player would need only to gain access to their target's computer and then pull any number of P99 tricks that result in this perma IP ban to gain their jollies.

I realize such an occurrence would have an astronomically low likelihood of happening, but I've always been a bit more comfortable with a criminal in my ranks than a free person rotting in jail.

My argument against is ideological I suppose.

EDIT: Covered. I'm late as usual.

[Yajirobe Yajipants]

Originally Posted by Ezalor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Swish, you seem to be extremely confused here.

1 - Person A gets caught RMTing
2 - Person A's EQEmu account is banned as punishment. He can no longer access his PP or characters on that account. No need to delete his character. He already can't play it.
3 - Person A creates a new EQEmu account
4 - Person A starts all over and RMTs once again.

The fact that there is no permanent punishment and this person can start over so easily is what I wanted to address.

My question is, with fluid IPs, is there any possible way we can have any type of permanent punishment for people who deserve it?

The idea is to negate the benefits and prolong the amount of time until RMT begins again. Since RMT can't be contained and eliminated, inconvenience is the next best thing.

Edit: Also, public shaming. Public posts regarding toon/account banned.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Easy to do once you've been delevelled to 1 and stripped of all items. Reset x1000 if you want, won't bring your RMT pixels back [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This I support.

[Ezalor]

@Yaji Thanks for clarifying.

Interesting. Uthgaard (the DAOC server) did public ban lists, on forum and globally broadcasted in-game.

[Splorf22]

ip bans are silly, half the people here are on DHCP and will get a new ip soonish.

Of course with their spyware rogean and co can probably get a better fingerprint of your computer.

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by Ezalor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Swish, you seem to be extremely confused here.

1 - Person A gets caught RMTing
2 - Person A's EQEmu account is banned as punishment. He can no longer access his PP or characters on that account. No need to delete his character. He already can't play it.
3 - Person A creates a new EQEmu account
4 - Person A starts all over and RMTs once again.

The fact that there is no permanent punishment and this person can start over so easily is what I wanted to address.

My question is, with fluid IPs, is there any possible way we can have any type of permanent punishment for people who deserve it?

The problem is that currently, only accounts and characters are banned. "Players" are never really banned because if they reroll on a new account, they're allowed (under the rules) to play on the server. This should change - when someone is "permanently" banned, they shouldn't be allowed to play on any account, period. If they admit who they are in game, that should get them banned again. This way they can't get PLed back to 60 or assisted in any other way. They can come back, but it'll be a lot harder.

[OMGWTF420]

^^^^

mad RMTer is mad