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Old 03-30-2014, 07:31 AM
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Firstly, EQOA was extremely under rated but such an awesome MMO, with features that are sorely missed today. For that alone I would donate substantial money to an EMU effort.

However, I didn't see any evidence from his videos that indicated a working netcode or anything other than him showing old footage while under a PS2 box on PC. In of itself, EQOA will never get full EMU support.

This was discussed by Vedan and other GMs/devs before the servers closed several years ago.

I'll be happy to be wrong though.
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Old 03-30-2014, 07:53 AM
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Firstly, EQOA was extremely under rated but such an awesome MMO, with features that are sorely missed today. For that alone I would donate substantial money to an EMU effort.

However, I didn't see any evidence from his videos that indicated a working netcode or anything other than him showing old footage while under a PS2 box on PC. In of itself, EQOA will never get full EMU support.

This was discussed by Vedan and other GMs/devs before the servers closed several years ago.

I'll be happy to be wrong though.
Pretty sure EQOA uses the same login protocol that EQ1 used in 1999-2002ish - SOE's SISA login.

Could be wrong though. You could modify your router's DNS to login through a PS2 though I am sure.
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Old 03-30-2014, 07:55 AM
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Plus, PS2 emulators are pretty far along as it is. I am not convinced EQOA would take that long to recreate - I looked at the protocol years back and it was unencrypted completely.

They even have 1080p support. It'd look VERY nice and be VERY playable with a PS3 controller.
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Old 03-30-2014, 08:02 AM
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Pretty sure EQOA uses the same login protocol that EQ1 used in 1999-2002ish - SOE's SISA login.

Could be wrong though. You could modify your router's DNS to login through a PS2 though I am sure.
I don't know anything about the SISA login, however EQOA used something called DNAS:

DNAS is a proprietary authentication system created by Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. It retrieves information about a user�s hardware and software for authentication, copy protection, account blocking, system, rules, or game management and other purposes.

Originally DNAS was touted as a system to prevent cheating in online games. However, after Socom was completly ripped apart by cheaters, it was clear that DNAS did very little to prevent cheaters in online games. DNAS really serves to prevent software piracy, and the use of modified consoles to play games online.
[EDIT from me : as someone whom personally ran EQOA over a PS2 emulator on the PC, I can confirm that DNAS does not protect against 'modified' consoles.]

Sony has the power to ban your Playstation 2's MAC address if they feel you are violating their terms of service. If you receive DNAS error message which you are unable to identify, and cannot connect to any online titles for a period of time, you can contact SCEA Consumer Services at 1-866-466-5333 or 1-800-345-7669 during the hours of 6:00am-7:00pm PST.


Here's something fun for the EQOA veterans. Click on the picture in this link for timeline!

http://eqoa.wordpress.com/2010/10/09/eqoa-timeline/


As for 1080p support, it's not native, it's just upscaled - work is done by the PS2 emulator. Thus if they released it for native use on the PS2, it would still be low resolution.

The PC emulated version is not 'plug and play,' even with good and simple instructions, it takes a while to setup. You need numerous different packages downloaded from obscure and unreliable places, to enable additional features such as gamepad support and USB peripheral masking, network card emulation (which has to be configured by you programming it yourself), the appropriate BIOS versions, memory card modules, etc.etc. If you get past that, you then need a modified .iso file (not straight burn from disc contents) to make work with the emulator, of which is prone to random crashing and errors. Trust me when I say that a working, modfieid .iso copy of EQOA is not easy to find.

If you thought P99 was fickle, heh you aint seen nothing yet.
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Old 03-30-2014, 11:24 AM
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However, I didn't see any evidence from his videos that indicated a working netcode or anything other than him showing old footage while under a PS2 box on PC. In of itself, EQOA will never get full EMU support.

This was discussed by Vedan and other GMs/devs before the servers closed several years ago.

I'll be happy to be wrong though.
He had quite a few working zones up...there were no enemies in them, though...and some of the zones, like PoS, weren't in. He sounds confident in being able to do it.
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Old 03-30-2014, 11:55 AM
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He had quite a few working zones up...there were no enemies in them, though...and some of the zones, like PoS, weren't in. He sounds confident in being able to do it.
Packet sniffing and discovery on the client side is impressive, but doable. Turning it into a server for full emulation, different story.

He'll need other people too, yet there's no forums/website or any mention of whether the project has a name, structure, plan, etcetc.

I guess it's 'watch this space...'
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Old 03-30-2014, 02:55 PM
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Oh that's a shame. Who would play a game without pvp? :S
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Old 03-30-2014, 03:00 PM
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Oh that's a shame. Who would play a game without pvp? :S
It had an awesome in-game community...everybody I know who played it regularly still regard it as one of the best mmorpgs they've played...and it was on the PS2. It wasn't dumbed down; everything was adjusted for a faster pace. Enemies respawned about 3x as fast there for example, and groups consisted of 4 man teams instead of 6. Also, there were no direct heals, there were only HoT heals, so in a way it was more challenging. There was only one expansion and it added a lot of cool additions to the game, making it better.
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Old 03-31-2014, 04:19 PM
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Also, there were no direct heals, there were only HoT heals, so in a way it was more challenging. There was only one expansion and it added a lot of cool additions to the game, making it better.
This is incorrect. Clerics always had direct heals alongside the HoT and one of their speciality lines(at level twenty when you chose your path) was what we used to call 'stitch' healing. It gave you a near instant cast heal for those split second moments. This was the more popular cleric spell line until later on when higher level pet classes starting camping certain zones where the mobs and bosses did high disease/poison/magic. The other cleric line just happen to be a super high resistance buff(s) and everyone rolled another cleric to accommodate that requirement. You had your adventure cleric/normal groups and you had your raid cleric/obscure groups.

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yea, another cool thing EQOA did was allow any class to wear a robe over your armor...so there was a chest piece & a robe piece...there were only 1 or 2 robes for melees that were in the game and they were so rare that only less than ten were on each server (they got removed too); but it was cool being a shaman rolling around in a dope robe, lol

You must be confused with another game. The Ceremonial Vestment a.k.a. "CV" was a limited drop that was wearable by casters and some melee. Shadow Knights had their own robes, one was a low (30s?) level from Orcs at the Deathfist camps, and one was a black high level. Both were taken out before Frontiers launched.
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Old 03-31-2014, 04:34 PM
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This is incorrect. Clerics always had direct heals alongside the HoT and one of their speciality lines(at level twenty when you chose your path) was what we used to call 'stitch' healing. It gave you a near instant cast heal for those split second moments. This was the more popular cleric spell line until later on when higher level pet classes starting camping certain zones where the mobs and bosses did high disease/poison/magic. The other cleric line just happen to be a super high resistance buff(s) and everyone rolled another cleric to accommodate that requirement. You had your adventure cleric/normal groups and you had your raid cleric/obscure groups.

You must be confused with another game. The Ceremonial Vestment a.k.a. "CV" was a limited drop that was wearable by casters and some melee. Shadow Knights had their own robes, one was a low (30s?) level from Orcs at the Deathfist camps, and one was a black high level. Both were taken out before Frontiers launched.
Well I never played a cleric and it was 10+ years ago when I last played, lol...I see the stack heals are on a 19 second recast time, so it's WAY different than regular Everquest, which is the point I was trying to make. Link: http://eqoa.wikia.com/wiki/Cleric

CV's (robe) were dropped as a rare item in the game for awhile. It was all/all (link: http://eqoa.wikia.com/wiki/Ceremonial_Vestment). There was another robe that was all/all was WAY more rare than the CV (CV is comparable to the manastones here). I owned one of the very few on Hodstock. My friend gave me one to buy a new Playstation 2 so I could keep playing, because mine messed up. I sold it to a guild mate for $400 cash back in 2002/2003. According to this post it was known as the "spectre" robe although I believe it was called something differently but that might be right, lol. Here's a link showing the write-up somebody did, and it references me and another guy named Dean. Link: https://eqoa.wordpress.com/2010/10/1...o-60-hodstock/

Another rare all/all robe was the Spiritmaster robe (same rarity as the CV). It was in the game for 1-2 weeks: Link: https://eqoa.wordpress.com/2010/10/20/sm-robe-phantoms/

Never heard of the SK robes?
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