Question on a camp

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So if someone comes in and sees no one killing the spawns and no one in the immediate area,. how are they supposed to know someone is semi-camping that spawn?
What is to stop someone a few minutes later from coming up and claiming it was theirs?

called asking for a camp check in ooc

[Valdarious]

I will always ask for a CC for this particular instance unless I see the dogs walking around loose. If they are out just walking around that means no one was there. Since this is a lower level camped item, I think some of the newer people don't know about asking for CC.
I do it mostly because it is something I can do when the wife asks me to do something around the house but I can still make the timers on the two. Normal game time, I am off doing other things with my normal toons.

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So if someone comes in and sees no one killing the spawns and no one in the immediate area,. how are they supposed to know someone is semi-camping that spawn?
What is to stop someone a few minutes later from coming up and claiming it was theirs?

For this purpose the spawns will not be there since I have already killed it. It is a static spawn point on a 6 minute timer so the dogs will not be there for more than about 5 seconds. You can only sit in one spot though so the other spot might not look like it is camped until I come running up right when it spawns.

[fastboy21]

Originally Posted by stakha [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think it's reasonable to consider the two spawns one camp in this case. I would respect someone else doing the two, that is.

reasonable doesn't matter. the server has rules that take opinion out of the response the OP is looking for. it is "reasonable" both ways, but the server rule is pretty clear imo that its two camps. it would have to be given a specific exemption from the the GMs to not be.

[Valdarious]

That is the reason why I was asking fastboy, thanks for inputting. Just trying to figure out if this is what people feel in this case, whether it would considered 1 or 2 camps.

[fastboy21]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Someone was camping supplier and another mob in Lower Guk yesterday (not assassin lol). On a camp check you'd be entitled to go to the one he's not parked in and claim it.

Pixel greed and TunnelQuest corrupt the mind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i think you technically have to let them choose which one they want. if they are camping ghoul lord and supplier, for example...when you go plop down at the ghoul lord spawn. in this case, the original player camping the two camps would get to pick which one he wants and you can have the other one.

the thing is that, frequently, if playerA forces playerB to pick then playerA will always pick the mob he knows playerB is after...knowing that he prob has no interest in the other. this essentially forces playerB to leave and come back later, or to sit there and do very little (welcome to classic EQ).

[fastboy21]

Originally Posted by Valdarious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That is the reason why I was asking fastboy, thanks for inputting. Just trying to figure out if this is what people feel in this case, whether it would considered 1 or 2 camps.

the only reason it wouldn't be two camps that I can think of according to the rules is if the mobs were in an outdoor zone and very close together.

the example I'm thinking of is the goblin gazhughi ring: there are a number of PH spots on like 30 sec timers. the two that are literally 15 feet apart and not separated by any terrain I would consider a single camp. the ones that a couple of hundred feet away from there are separated by the terrain (ruins, trees, etc.) would be a different camp.

they would have to be very much right next to each other in an outdoor zone from my reading of the rules. definitely in dungeons two different mobs in the same room are one camp, two different rooms are two camps.

[loramin]

What everyone else has been saying is true, except for one thing: while the polite thing is always to do a camp check before you kill something, honestly that's not going to happen in lowbie outdoor zones (or really any outdoor zone unless we're talking something like the Ancient Cyclops). If a level 10 sees a rabid animal with no one killing it (or running to kill it) they're just going to kill it themself, they're not going to call a camp check first.

I'd recommend worrying less about locking other people out of mobs you can't even see and more just on killing what you can see.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by fastboy21 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i think you technically have to let them choose which one they want. if they are camping ghoul lord and supplier, for example...when you go plop down at the ghoul lord spawn. in this case, the original player camping the two camps would get to pick which one he wants and you can have the other one.

the thing is that, frequently, if playerA forces playerB to pick then playerA will always pick the mob he knows playerB is after...knowing that he prob has no interest in the other. this essentially forces playerB to leave and come back later, or to sit there and do very little (welcome to classic EQ).

I dunno, I've seen people just set up in an empty room and await the next mob to spawn. If you're not in there you're not camping it etc.

[stakha]

Originally Posted by fastboy21 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the only reason it wouldn't be two camps that I can think of according to the rules is if the mobs were in an outdoor zone and very close together.

the example I'm thinking of is the goblin gazhughi ring: there are a number of PH spots on like 30 sec timers. the two that are literally 15 feet apart and not separated by any terrain I would consider a single camp. the ones that a couple of hundred feet away from there are separated by the terrain (ruins, trees, etc.) would be a different camp.

they would have to be very much right next to each other in an outdoor zone from my reading of the rules. definitely in dungeons two different mobs in the same room are one camp, two different rooms are two camps.

The camp he is referring to is not separated by much more than the gobo ring camp.

[stakha]

Originally Posted by fastboy21 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

reasonable doesn't matter.

This is a horrible thing to say.