Decisons, decisions...

[Tseng]

Troll for regen

[alWald0]

I lack the experience of being a eq vet, which can hurt at times. But when your like 4 or 5 years old, watching this was fun. Hoping to get the first 50 (60 for kunark) in my family.

[Reiker]

Ogre, stamina.

[Wenai]

Originally Posted by Tseng [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Troll for regen

Overrated. Come Kunark you just cast Torpor on yourself whether you are Troll, Ogre, Barbarian or Iksar. The regen helps (not saying it doesn't) but it is extremely overrated once Kunark hits.

Also the snare necklace is overrated.

Originally Posted by Reiker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ogre, stamina.

True that. Look at start stats for Ogre .vs. Barbarian.

If a barbarian maxes WIS on creation, a barbarian gets 105 WIS. If an ogre maxes WIS on creation, an ogre gets 103 WIS.

I think barbarian has 105 STA and ogre has something stupid around 130 STA. Hit points are far more important than mana for a shaman although I always suggest a good balance.

So by going Ogre you are only giving up like 2 Wisdom by gaining like 25 STA extra or something.

[Estu]

I don't know why people say to go STA instead of WIS. Canni gives you about 1 mana for 2 hp and you don't get a good return on STA since you're a caster. Go WIS IMO.

[Ridic]

Ogres, all the way to the bank. Why? Cause they have insane stam (it'll make up for not regening) and are stun immuned from the front (which is really awesome for soloing, or landing that root in group, after aggro-slow)

[fastboy21]

Originally Posted by Estu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't know why people say to go STA instead of WIS. Canni gives you about 1 mana for 2 hp and you don't get a good return on STA since you're a caster. Go WIS IMO.

because...you don't die if you go oom. you die if you run out of hp. shamans need to be built with taking combat damage in mind. slow is one of the biggest aggro dealers in the game, and you are going to draw aggro. a good shaman isn't the one that can cast slow (all shamans can do that) its the one that isn't paper and can take a few hits that is going to be most useful.

the benefit of wisdom can much more easily be made up with gear than stamina in my opinion also.

[guineapig]

Also, wisdom effects what size your full mana pool is... when does a shaman have a full mana pool?

[Wenai]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, wisdom effects what size your full mana pool is... when does a shaman have a full mana pool?

NEVAR.

Manapool doesn't really matter except in really sticky situations in which you are chain casting roots/heals/dots etc. But that is why I still preach a balance of WIS/STA/HP/AC. Be prepared for every situation. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[quellren]

I know this makes me sound like a jerk, but:
Isn't the romance of EQ figuring things out for yourself? One of the things that annoys me the most most about the WoW generation of MMOs (and MMO gamers) is the insistence of "a gear list" that you must strive for, or you're considered sub-par and 'fail'. Just stack wis to 175-180, then stack stam. In the beginning, under 20, get a set of banded and go to work. The shaman has both the pleasure and the curse of having a wide variety of gear that is 'good' for them. I've seen shaman with 55hp rings, and the 6wis rings(or one of each), shaman with 2hb, and spear and shield, Caster shaman in high wis leather/cloth, and 'battlemage' shaman in high AC chain.

Since someones gonna start this same thread next week, here are some common, ubiquitous items that the vast majority of shaman seek out.

Bloodstained tunic (Foremans tunic isn't bad either)
Charred Guardian Shield
Gloomwater harpoon
Sharkbone warhammer (Theres another 1hb with wis, but I don't remember the name)
Lizardscale mantle
Runed mithral bracers (there are other choices, inc. player made)
Black Iron Medalion
Chrysoberl Talisman (can be pricey)
+wis jewelry
5ac/55hp rings
Some times a savants cap (low AC, but +3wis)
Each of these pieces should be between 50 and 400p. If you can't afford that, stick to the banded armor until you can.
Not every slot has an ideal piece, some you just gotta wear whats available. Cloak comes to mind.

Just level. The gear will come. If you need a refresher, spend some time in EC as you level up, clicking the links in /auc. You'll start seeing gear that looks like it'd work.